Posted on 11/30/2010 11:42:20 PM PST by rxsid
"Lakin not allowed witnesses, documents, explanation at court-martial Dec. 14!
Lakin Family Attempts to Avoid Confrontation Ignored by Obama
Letters obtained by The Gazette reveal the extent to which a decorated Army officer and his brother struggled to resolve concerns over the Presidents eligibility prior to the officer being court-martialed.
The Lakins are long-time Greeley residents. Three Lakin brothers; Dr. Greg Lakin, Capt. Gary Lakin USCG and Lt. Col. Terrance Lakin graduated from University High School in 1977, 1980 and 1983 respectively. The brothers' parents still live in Greeley and have a long history of supporting humanitarian causes in the area.
Lt. Col. Lakin is currently scheduled to be court-martialed Dec. 14 for disobeying orders to deploy after exhausting numerous attempts to resolve issues regarding the Presidents eligibility to be Commander-in-Chief. The specific issue involved is the Constitutional requirement that the President be a natural born citizen.
Dr. Greg Lakin has previously been a member of the Greeley Police Department and was a prosecutor in Hawaii. Greg, who was interviewed on the Peter Boyles radio show on Nov. 9, said Lakin, mulled over this for a long period of time before he made his decision to refuse to deploy to Afghanistan. He strongly disputed the contention that his brother was a coward for deploying, noting Terry had already served in both Bosnia and Afghanistan.
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In an interview with the Gazette, Dr. Lakin shared copies of letters he and his brother sent to the President and Hawaiian Governor Linda Lingle asking for a resolution of this issue. Greg said the letters were written with a very humble spirit in an attempt to seek information verifying Barack Obamas birthplace.
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Lt. Col. Lakin sent a letter to the President prior to being charged saying, as part of the deployment orders, he was required to submit his long form birth certificate and he was glad to obey this order, and will provide a certified copy of my original birth certificate with common, standard identifiers, including the name of an attending physician and a hospital. He said he attempted through my chain of command for many months to get answers to the relentless questions surrounding your eligibility, but was informed that I lack standing. I also sought answers, unsuccessfully, through my Congressional delegation. He went on to explain the reason for his request had nothing to do with personal differences. Please assure the American people that you are indeed constitutionally eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief and thereby may lawfully direct service members into harm's way. I will be proud to deploy to Afghanistan to further serve my country and my fellow soldiers, but want to do so with the knowledge and peace of mind that this important provision of our Constitution is respected and obeyed.
Dr. Lakin, in his first letter to the president prior to his brothers arraignment, implored Obama to put the matter to rest stressing his brother tried to resolve the matter through proper channels but was rebuffed. Approximately 20 months ago while continuing to serve in the Army he attempted to seek clarification regarding your birth certificate through proper military channels. Lt. Col. Lakin filed his requests through the normal chain of command (as the military advised) but continued to meet with frustration as the Army was unable to provide any clarification with regard to your place of birth. He believes this raises a Constitutional issue, a Constitution which he has sworn to uphold. He stresses that his brother would gladly deploy in an instant once his questions have been answered, saying Terry remains ready and willing to continue to serve his country in areas of conflict - as he has done in Afghanistan and Bosnia. I believe that upon meeting with my idealistic and principled brother you would find him professional, compassionate and worth helping. Dr. Lakin even suggested a way to defuse the situation saying that a meeting with him or our family, whether you chose to do this in private or public setting, would likely defuse this matter.
He also sent a letter to Hawaiian Governor Linda Lingle who he met several times while he was a prosecuting attorney in Maui County. He told her that a short meeting or phone with him or family (whether done privately or publicly - your choice), would completely defuse this matter.
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Dr. Lakin sent another letter to the President after the initial court-martial date was set. In the letter Greg told the president he was a supporter who was pleased to see him elected in 2008. He reiterated that Terry made this decision only after other options had been exhausted. It is a shame that no one above him in the military ranks and no one in Congress, who represents him, could address his concerns so that he could have avoided the prospect of such an enormous penalty for staying faithful to the oath he swore as an officer. He went on to say that Col. Lakin was far from alone in his concerns saying, Many others in uniform share this concern and have conveyed their support to my brother.
Showing he understands the divisiveness the issue has caused, he told the President, We should use all means necessary to avoid an escalated controversy this fall when his court-martial is scheduled. There is much strife and tension in this nation now and this would not be healthy or productive. Emphasizing the desire to find a resolution of the eligibility issue once and for all so the matter could be put to rest, Lakin said, My family stands ready to provide any further information you might need and to offer our assistance to try to broker any compromise or negotiation that might be acceptable to all parties. We are deeply distressed over this situation, and do not believe that Terry deserves to be imprisoned simply for seeking assurances that he is following legal orders.
Greg stated that he has not received any response to his letters and is concerned the Army will simply take the easy way out by avoiding the issue and simply lock up his brother. He said based on his experience as a prosecutor in situations like this where there is no case law, Judges go in with a pre-determined idea how they are going to decide it and take case law and policy statements to say whatever they want. There is no magic law that supports either position.
Greg said if his brother is not allowed to present evidence on his behalf and is convicted he would be forced to leave his practice to advocate for his brother saying, My reluctant but determined response would be to forego my busy medical practice treating drug addicts and elderly patients to organize a public outcry for Americas new military political prisoner.
As the issue drags on, more members of the media appear to be mentioning the issue. Conan OBrien joked about the President being ineligible in one of his monologues. Rush Limbaugh, who has previously made comments regarding Obamas birth certificate, said last week, We have an imposter for all intents and purposes serving in the White House.
Saturday Night Live has also mentioned the issue with an opening skit having Sen. Harry Reid asking the President to produce his birth certificate. ABC News Jake Tapper questioned White House Security Advisor David Axelrods statement that the President has released his birth certificate asking specifically about the long form containing the name and signature of the attending physician."
From: http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=6890
So what? I'm a Navy graduate as well, as was LCDR Charles Swift, the clown who glorified in defending Hamdan. Does that make Chuck "Not Too" Swift someone we should all respect?
When was the last time military (either active or retired) openly accused a sitting President of treason? Yet no action on the serious charge of treason. Crickets.
I dunno. We do know there were some maggots in the military who made some outrageous attacks upon President Bush. But if members of the military wants to exercise their rights citizens to accuse the President of treason, that's their business. But if they feel that they cannot take orders from their chain of command, then the proper thing to do is resign your commission, not politicize your active service and take our military down the road to becoming a pseudo-Praetorian Guard. As to why their charges, which largely amount to disagreements over policy, haven't been investigated as "treason", I have no idea. Probably because they are more policy disagreements than anything else.
And to clarify, I personally believe the President is somebody who sympathizes more with Marxism and the developing Third World than with the U.S., which I think he deeply resents as just another "exploiter." But unfortunately, our fellow citizens elected the bum, and we're going to have to wait on them to get rid of him in 2012. I hope.
I resigned my commission in 1992 because I didn't want to serve under Clinton. That is what you are supposed to do if you have got a problem with the CIC. Politicizing the military -- particularly when, as in this case, it will not do a damn bit of good -- is just doing more harm to a country that already needs all the help it can get.
This, from a link on Drudge, we capture and release Taliban fighters. I simply can’t allow my Son to join the Army under a commander who allows this kind of crap, hoping his own commander in chief doesn’t put a bullet in his back:
More than 500 suspected Taliban fighters detained by U.S. forces have been released from custody at the urging of Afghan government officials, angering both American troops and some Afghans who oppose the policy on the grounds that many of those released return to the battlefield to kill NATO soldiers and Afghan civilians.
So far as I know, there has never been another time when multiple members of the military (retired)...let alone one member, has charged a sitting "CinC" with treason. It's unprecedented.
Those guys who charged Barry with treason could be brought up on mutiny charges. Why haven't they? Because Barry (& Holder) can't touch them! Otherwise, they would then (I should say "should") be allowed discovery during their trial.
The military must be assured they have a legal chain of command reaching up to and including the Commander in Chief. As you know, Officers like Lakin swear their oaths to the Constitution, not a person like Barry.
Following natural law, you can't "serve two masters." If your born a citizen of two countries, you have divided allegiance. Either your born with singular allegiance or not...whether or not your moved when your 1 month or 1 year or 10 years...it's the citizenship condition at birth that the framers choose to agree upon. "Natural Born Citizen." Don't like it, get the Constitution amended. A mere majority rule in an election isn't the lawful way to change the requirement.
I guess the military will just have to limp along without him them.
"Boyles brings up A.G. Eric Holder putting terrorists on trial:
Well, he should be locked up. He should be, put handcuffs on him and also Obama, and taken away. I think theyre conducting treason, myself
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Well, I'm one, and so is that D-bag Chuck Swift. So believing someone just because they're a Boat School grad is going to twist you up into some pretty nasty contradictions.
So far as I know, there has never been another time when multiple members of the military (retired)...let alone one member, has charged a sitting "CinC" with treason. It's unprecedented.
First, I guess you must have missed all those nutbags, including some former military folk, who accused Bush of treason for supposedly being responsible for 9/11. If you did, here's just one of many links you can try:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/tag/treason/
Second, I don't see anything in the Constitution disqualifying a sitting President simply because some retired military people think he's a traitor. If that was the case, I suppose people should have refused to obey Bush's orders based on the accusations by some military people that he was responsible for 9/11.
Address your complaints to Ben Franklin..one of the Founders:
“Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small.
All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so.
And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also,
the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth.
I could wish their Numbers were increased.
And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People?
why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red?
But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind” Ben Franklin - Founder.
Those pesky words natural and Kind.
Yes LTC Lakin will probably be sacrificed to avoid the intent of the Founders meaning of natural born citizen.
http://www.franklinpapers.org/franklin/framedVolumes.jsp
Search the files to locate the letter “Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind” Benjamin Franklin Papers...
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