Posted on 11/30/2010 8:25:59 PM PST by Racehorse
Experts say that in addition to protections for free speech, there are difficulties with proving leaked documents are classified, under a US government executive order which sets limits on documents that can be properly termed as classified documents.
However, if charges are made against Julian Assange under the law in the US, then he would face extradition under the controversial UK-US extradition treaty, which provides special measures for extraditions between the two countries.
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Obummer will probably pardon him before he sets foot here. No reason to be embarrassed over sensational revelations during a trial!
A few public executions for treason aughta do it.
What a JOKE!
If they are talking about EO 12958 then they are probably right. Surprisingly (or maybe not) most branches of the military are kind of sloppy when it comes to following whatever security classification guide they are operating under. When I say sloppy I mean that they typically over classify things or classify things that they have no authority to classify. Most of them have probably never even bothered to look at the guide and most of the tactical stuff has no need of classification after a fairly short period of time (minutes, days, weeks at most). I’m surprised that any real HUMINT stuff was in these since most of them were only classified CONFIDENTIAL or SECRET and they usually protect HUMINT information at higher levels.
I doubt that we’ll be able to convict this guy of anything since he is not a US citizen and did not do this within our boundaries so I would imagine that any Federal court would throw out any charges brought. However, if he ends up at Gitmo I’m sure it will be years before he sets foot in any US court.
Interesting that they only got serious about the guy after he started hinting about releasing info on the banks. That really does show you who runs this country and also that the “classified” info wasn’t that big a deal, embarrassing for sure but not really something that damaged the “war” effort.
Hillary the snake should be the first person walking the plank and maybe she can take billybob with her.
Has anyone bothered to ask whether these documents are even real? I’m sure there truly was a leak of thousands of documents but I wouldn’t think it would be that difficult for *someone with an agenda* so splice together a few diplomatic messages that simply aren’t true.
Which brings me to my second point. All the CIA/NSA/OMGLOL! needs to do is contaminate these types of leaks with reasonably believable fakes to the extent that most sane people wouldn’t believe any of them. If news was reported tomorrow that, say, five of the documents were proven to be unmitigated BS most mainstream people would write the whole bunch off. Of course the ideal time to do this would be BEFORE the batch is sent off to the press and posted on the interweb.
Funny but I noticed that as well. It’s like the press is trying really hard to make him seem bigger than life.
...............difficulties with proving leaked documents are classified, under a US government executive order which sets limits on documents that can be properly termed as classified documents....................
Yet, there are no problems with an EO that claims classified “top secret” status for a bunch of college records and birth documents for a certain sitting president!
What a strange bizarro world in which we live!
Treason is defined in Art 3 sec 3 of the Constitution, Espionage Act also applies, and Sedition Act. Postmaster General has authority to impound all the Wiki information from all persons in possession of it. Why not act now, govt can ask for forgiveness later after parsing the mickey mouse legal bs later in court. The disclosure is ipso facto treason, espionage and sedition for all news sources and enterprises and individuals handling and disclosing the data. I work for an oil company - if our proprietary data were disclosed in such a fashion, the disclosers would be up to their eyeballs in police and lawyers and lawsuits, within 24 hours. The government has tremendous resources to shut this down and they choose not to. Why?
Answer: this is a deliberate disclosure of state secrets by Obama on a historically unprecedented massive scale, to weaken the nation, to destroy Hillary Clinton, and none of the disclosures substantially harm the leftists one-world pan-leninist agenda. Assange is just a tool.
The Omullah has been silent about the whole thing, griping about his basketball games, shutting down websites selling knock-off purses, taking over the food industry in lame duck congress, and trying to ram through his personal nuke treaty and amnesty for illegals, while stalling on taxes to increase rates in January, and sink the whole enchilada. He really is trying to destroy the nation. There is no other explanation.
There is a war on. Having some stout fellows grab this guy and escort him to Guantanamo for further questioning should be the first order of business. If, after a couple of years of questioning, they decide he’s ok, then they can release him to the Saudis or something.
If he was arab or pashtun (and if someone else was president) it would already have happened.
O and Assange both work for the same people. They are both tools.
We can put pressure on our allies to bring this man to justice. And the gay traitor in America's military who provided him the stolen documents can be prosecuted for treason. Those who knew the gay traitor was downloading hundreds of thousands of pages of documentation and conveniently let it pass can also be brought up on charges.
Easy, unauthorized disclosure of classified information via...
A lot of people should be losing their jobs, facing fines and even prison for releasing classified information. This is the Secretary of State's responsibility.
This is a tremendous breach of government security and the MSM is blowing it off.
That's a canard (mis-representation - distration). It's the information which is classified. Documents, media, etc. acquire the classification when they host the data. If the information originates from classified communications releasing it to non-classified entities is breaking the law.
This article is damage control for those who released the information.
Only classified CONFIDENTIAL or SECRET?! The fact it was HUMINT means the information is classified. Mis-classifying it at lower levels or not at all does not absolve the employees of violation of security requirements. It is the information first and classification level second as people often mis-classify information. HUMINT is specifically TOP SECRET or above.
CONFIDENTIAL and SECRET are not REL to non-classified sources. People broke the law.
And contrary to your assumption many DOD organizations do use granular classification templates specifying classification level, REL TO and date of declassification.
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