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1 posted on 11/30/2010 5:26:26 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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islamism should always be considered a crime against the US


2 posted on 11/30/2010 5:27:58 PM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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If what Napolitano says is true, then this is very similar to Ruby Ridge.


3 posted on 11/30/2010 5:29:01 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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If they find the guy was coerced by the govt, I agree with Napolitano. However, if they did not, and he thought he was blowing up people, but it just didn’t work, then I think he is guilty


4 posted on 11/30/2010 5:29:06 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (DEFUND NPR, PBS, THE TSA AND THE U.N.)
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Napolitano is in error. Every now and then he starts creating semantic differentials like a Mafia consigliere ~ it's still wrong.

Did he grow up in that environment or what?

5 posted on 11/30/2010 5:30:05 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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bill’s a bit bitchy tonight.


7 posted on 11/30/2010 5:32:20 PM PST by ken21 (who runs the gop?)
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bill’s a bit bitchy tonight.


8 posted on 11/30/2010 5:32:41 PM PST by ken21 (who runs the gop?)
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I agree with him too! We need to stop interfering with terrorists trying to kill Americans. We need to be fair and allow them to kill as many Americans as they can before we try to bring them to trial.


11 posted on 11/30/2010 5:35:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Sittin' in da back of da bus since January 2009.)
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Hate crime laws, like abortion and other things, were placed into law before the public knew what happened.

The ruling class has been sneaking around to do wrong for a long time.

I have always followed politics and the news; however, I was an adult before I realized that federal regulations out of the executive branch were ruling our lives without one vote from our representatives.


12 posted on 11/30/2010 5:37:00 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islamism)
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How do you have a case on attempting to blow something up? Seems to me that a “bomb” that can’t be blown up is enough to find a defendant guilty.

Sometimes the law has to be changed to keep up with the times.


14 posted on 11/30/2010 5:39:39 PM PST by Ex-Democrat Dean
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For those of us not close to a TV, give us the short points, please. What’s he right about?


16 posted on 11/30/2010 5:40:23 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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The thought was not the crime in Portland, the action was. Further, the action was not a minor step over an arbitrary line. It was intent to commit murder.

Entrapment is going after someone that would not otherwise commit the crime. Offering someone $1000 to leave a bag of crap on a doorstep is entrapment. Acting on a tip that someone is seeking a hit man by pretending to be a real hit man isn't entrapment. One creates a crime, the other allows it to proceed. Hiring a hit man is not a thought crime, it is an actual action.

Our little muzzie friend in Portland fits into the latter category.

17 posted on 11/30/2010 5:41:59 PM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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Thought is not a crime....hate crimes are Unconstitutional


George Orwell In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

18 posted on 11/30/2010 5:42:13 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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We would be better off if we just stopped accepting muslims into the country.


30 posted on 11/30/2010 5:54:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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I would guess you would also be one of the first ones to start screaming “why didn’t the FBI or cops do something about this guy when they found out he was trying to contact terrorists”....after he was successful with his terrorist plan.

Authorities need to follow through, even setting the individual up, to make the thousands of others just like him already in this country more reluctant to trust anyone telling them they can help them murder Americans. One of the best defenses to terrorism is convincing the would be terrorist he can’t trust anyone and that makes his terrorist attack plan all the harder to implement.


32 posted on 11/30/2010 5:57:13 PM PST by macquire
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So with your ridiculous position; anyone using a firearm in a crime should just make sure it is empty; then they can claim they were just thinking of using it...

Sheese.

Go back to DU.


37 posted on 11/30/2010 5:59:46 PM PST by macquire
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People don’t get prosecuted or convicted for what they merely think. If they commit no acts, they commit no crtime.


40 posted on 11/30/2010 6:02:02 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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I saw it, I have to agree. Never liked these “sting” operations.


51 posted on 11/30/2010 6:35:00 PM PST by upsdriver
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Napolitano is a hack. The government didn’t plant the seed. The terrorist wasn’t recruited. They did water the plant after the seed germinated. That’s not entrapment.They should have given him a real bomb and detonated it while he was in transit


57 posted on 11/30/2010 6:56:02 PM PST by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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I didn't see this segment, but it sounds like it was a very interesting conversation.

I've long had some serious concerns about any kind of police "sting" operation like this -- where the government goes out and builds a case against a defendant based on a "Crime that Didn't Really Happen but Might Have Happened if the Undercover Police were Actually Terrorists Supplying This Guy with Weapons and Explosives" scenario.

67 posted on 11/30/2010 8:56:20 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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