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Case Shiller: Here Are The 15 Housing Markets That Will Fall The Most By 2012
Business Insider ^ | 11/30/2010 | Gus Lubin and Leah Goldman

Posted on 11/30/2010 9:13:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Case-Schiller's September housing report came out worse than expected, confirming to any doubters that the housing double dip is here.

National home prices dropped 1.5% in September.

The new data will worsen Case-Shiller's already bearish outlook for the housing market. Earlier this month, it forecast a 7.1 percent drop in prices from Q2 '10 to Q2 '11, with price stagnation through Q2 '12.

This is a brutal forecast, which would have wide economic consequences. Five years after the housing peak, markets in Florida, Nevada and California would remain down around 60 percent.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: caseshiller; housing; realestate
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To: wardaddy

Nashville is the capital of TN, which is the one place in most states getting the least drops. Also lots of houses were washed away in the big flood earlier this year, so some replacement is in order.

Spring Hill got killed by the closing of the GM plant.


21 posted on 11/30/2010 10:31:36 AM PST by packrat35 (I got your tag line..)
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To: SeekAndFind
Not only that, real estate and development investments are a PATH TO CITIZENSHIP.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/11/path-to-citizenship-beckons-cash-to-mchenry-county.html

In return for kicking in $500,000 apiece, foreign investors in the project would jump to the head of the nation's often-tangled line for legal immigration and win a route toward U.S. citizenship for themselves and their families.

22 posted on 11/30/2010 10:46:21 AM PST by They'reGone2000 (They'reGone2010)
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To: SeekAndFind

“#4 Ocean City, NJ”

I blame “The Jersey Shore” TV show.


23 posted on 11/30/2010 10:47:06 AM PST by dangus
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To: GunsAndBibles

Lassen College in Susanville, CA also has a gunsmithing school.

i’m not sure if the gunsmithing school in Trinidad, CO is affiliated with a college.


24 posted on 11/30/2010 11:13:02 AM PST by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
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To: dangus
I blame “The Jersey Shore” TV show.

Leave Snooki alone!! :^)

25 posted on 11/30/2010 11:27:25 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: SeekAndFind
....Imagine buying a property for $100,000 and renting it out for say $800/month. That’s like putting money in a bank for 8% interest every year.....

You don't have much experience in the commercial real estate business, do you? Do you understand the difference between gross and net income? CRE investment does provide interesting tax advantages (the purchase price can be amortized over the economic life of the property, deferring income tax liabilities), but I think it is safe to say that the operating expense of a single family property (real estate taxes, insurance, maintenance and repair) exceeds $400 per month. Therefore, the real cap rate is more like 3% or 4% rather than 8% in your example.

26 posted on 11/30/2010 11:51:31 AM PST by irish_links (: ... but only say the word and I shall be healed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What will our dollar be worth in 2012?


27 posted on 11/30/2010 12:51:38 PM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

RE: If they buy at $100,000 and the value further depreciates to $75,000, and there is no one around to rent them; just how good of an investment is it?


These Chinese investors are betting that now is the time to buy (as a smart investor once said, the time to buy is when people are panicking and there’s blood on the streets). A $100,000 house would have been worth close to $200,000 just two years ago and these guys are betting it won’t go much lower.

The arc of the Vegas housing market is (not surprisingly) tightly related to hires and fires in the Leisure & Hospitality industry. These Chinese buyers are probably betting that it’s bottoming out and improving.

Time will tell if it was a smart or foolish move.


28 posted on 11/30/2010 1:00:19 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: B4Ranch

RE: What will our dollar be worth in 2012?


I’d closely watch the price of Gold or Silver, that’s where the market signal is.


29 posted on 11/30/2010 1:01:39 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: GunsAndBibles

>>the only community college I know of with a gunsmithing school.<<

I think there’s one in Susanville, CA


30 posted on 11/30/2010 1:03:17 PM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: They'reGone2000

Would you rather have some cannibalistic tribal monkeys from Somalia or wealthy businessmen from South Africa immigrating into the US??


31 posted on 11/30/2010 1:06:40 PM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: irish_links

Killer! You just killed that man’s dream.


32 posted on 11/30/2010 1:09:10 PM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m hoping the Chinese are right, that we have bottomed out and will start climbing out.

Locally I have watched over the past three weeks two houses in what appears to be the beginning of a new developement being built. From ground up to include fencing. They must have had a crew of close to 30-40 from what I could see. Hopefully that crew was 30-40 of our citizens currently out of work rather than illegals.

Anyway, first new construction I’ve seen in over two years.


33 posted on 11/30/2010 1:11:32 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: SeekAndFind

The current gold price is not an indicator of what it will be in two years.


34 posted on 11/30/2010 1:25:48 PM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: B4Ranch

...Killer! You just killed that man’s dream....

Sorry, I was a bit harsh. I’m not certain why I assume the burden of injecting some degree of rationality to this board. It’s a thankless task.


35 posted on 11/30/2010 3:53:34 PM PST by irish_links (: ... but only say the word and I shall be healed.)
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To: irish_links
That's why it is considered risky to invest in something you know nothing about. I should have posted a /sarcasm tag with my previous post.
36 posted on 11/30/2010 5:07:39 PM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

On average, a house in Vegas that was priced at $200,000 at the peak would be worth less that $90,000 today.


37 posted on 11/30/2010 5:15:42 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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