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ENERGY: How to prep your home for an electric car
nctimes.com ^

Posted on 11/28/2010 5:18:31 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

Edited on 11/28/2010 6:07:20 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Getting your home ready to charge an electric car will either require little time or money ---- or a couple of months and thousands of dollars. It depends on what kind of electric car you buy, the wiring in your home and how quickly you want to juice your ride.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: efv; electricity; energy; missinglink; recharging
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To: exDemMom
Also, I wonder how people think these things are going to save energy?

When the whole block goes black, nobody will be consuming grid energy. Therefore, energy savings are imposed through the greenies' dreams.

Until they buy personal generators to take up the slack...

But the irony is: everyone else will have transport, the greenies will have to walk. Be good for them.

41 posted on 11/28/2010 5:50:28 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: eyeamok

And dangerous too.

A lot of people are going to get killed in house fires caused by charging electric cars in homes with old or sub standard wiring.


42 posted on 11/28/2010 5:50:49 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: devere

Went to the LA Auto Show yesterday and spent some time at the Southern California Edison booth. I don’t promise that their info is correct, but it’s interesting.

1. They want people to install the charging stations.
2. They will put the charging stations on a separate meter.
3. Most cars should charge in 4 to 6 hours via the charging station.
4. If you only charge the car after 9 PM, they will give you a price equal to 2.5 cents per mile.

Gas today (at my local Costco) was $3 per gallon. For the two to equal out, I’d have to get 120 mpg.

One issue, there seems to be a lot of disagreement about whether one charging station will work on any electric car. Some say yes, some say no.


43 posted on 11/28/2010 5:50:49 PM PST by MS from the OC (Obama foreign policy"If you're an enemy we're sorry; if you're a friend, you're sorry" Abe Greenwald)
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To: Jet Jaguar

First, surgically remove all testosterone...


44 posted on 11/28/2010 5:50:49 PM PST by MortMan (To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
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To: devere

With an electric car, the upside is no annual maintainance costs. There are no moving parts that wear out or have to be replaced. And of course there are the savings from not having to fill up with gas every couple of round trips.


45 posted on 11/28/2010 5:51:33 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Jet Jaguar

All kinds of reasons not to have a plug-in electric car have been presented here, and not the least of which such a vehicle simply would not be supported by existing infrastructure.

I guess if you want “economy”, you are going to have to pay for it.


46 posted on 11/28/2010 5:52:40 PM PST by alloysteel ("If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.")
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To: Keith in Iowa
How ‘bout a Honda generator with enough power output to charge the electric cars? :)

With every zero-emissions car, Nissan will throw in a handsome coal-fired steam-engine home generator for nominal fee.


47 posted on 11/28/2010 5:52:58 PM PST by Dagnabitt ("Obama" - Swahili for "Fail")
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To: goldstategop

“There are no moving parts that wear out or have to be replaced.”

Just stationary parts like a $15,000 battery?


48 posted on 11/28/2010 5:53:11 PM PST by devere
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To: devere

Like I said with Murphy’s Law, that battery is going to be vastly improved and cheaper by the time its necessary to replace it.


49 posted on 11/28/2010 5:54:58 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Don’t waste your time or money on this gamble.


50 posted on 11/28/2010 5:55:42 PM PST by taxtruth
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To: devere
"What is the advantage of electric cars?"

The advantage of the Chevy Volt is that the Government's push to get GM to go green will mean Union workers will be able to make a "Green" automobiles that will enable GM to pay back the American taxpayer...

Its an almost perfect plan except for one minor "hitch"...

The Chevy Volt is twice the price of "greener" non-electric high MPG gas powered cars so the "Volt" is not going to be a "high demand" car.

Bottom line, there is no advantage whatsoever for these new electric cars. (Its because of the time involved to recharge the unit and the battery life issue)

51 posted on 11/28/2010 5:57:04 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: RangerM

Thanks!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2634178/posts

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thetruthaboutcars ^ | November 28, 2010 | By Bertel Schmitt
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52 posted on 11/28/2010 5:57:18 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: raybbr

1.21 gigawatts!!!!!!!


53 posted on 11/28/2010 5:59:26 PM PST by seton89 (Mit der NY Dummheit, kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.)
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To: nascarnation
If most of the charging is done at night (which seems likely) the added loads shouldn’t be much of an issue for many years to come.

The distribution pattern will be radically different, with increases in the residential and rural areas.

The generation might be there (if the EPA doesn't force too many coal plants off-line), but distribution will be a problem in some areas.

54 posted on 11/28/2010 5:59:41 PM PST by SteamShovel (UTOPIA...Isn't)
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To: SteamShovel

If a battery is developed that can be recharged in 30 minutes, the power load on transformers should be cut substantially.


55 posted on 11/28/2010 6:01:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Libloather
Consider the case of the humble incandescent light bulb. By the time power has been generated at a plant, transported across high-tension lines, and sent to the lighting fixture, a measly 0.8 percent of the power is converted into light.

But that heat is not necessarily wasted. Here in the PNW, where electric heat still exists, the heat emitted by incandescents in wintertime provides additional heating that the electric heat doesn't have to provide.

These are things that designers of "green buildings" learn (or used to learn) to factor in.

I like my CFLs, but folks should have the right to use "heat-bulbs" if they want. Congress is WAY out of control!

56 posted on 11/28/2010 6:02:11 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: Jet Jaguar; Admin Moderator

AP articles have to be excerpted, unless you want to personally foot the leagal bills.


57 posted on 11/28/2010 6:03:12 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Keith in Iowa

How will you power the Honda generator?


58 posted on 11/28/2010 6:05:04 PM PST by Ditter
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To: the invisib1e hand

LOL, I think I just figured out the difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals believe fairy tales are true and conservatives know that they are pleasant imaginings.


59 posted on 11/28/2010 6:05:17 PM PST by tiki
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To: A.A. Cunningham

JimRob will do emergency surgery.


60 posted on 11/28/2010 6:06:00 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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