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To: verga; vladimir998; fortheDeclaration; Mr Rogers

So rather than give us REAL arguments against the KJV other than HERESY! HERESY!HERESY! all your arguments are basicly nitpicking.

• 13 “And whereas they urge for their second defence of their vilifying and abusing of the English Bibles, or some pieces thereof, which they meet with, for that heretics, forsooth, were the authors of the translations, (heretics they call us by the same right that they call themselves Catholics, both being wrong) we marvel what divinity taught them so”.

Vladimer said the English translations were good, then attacks them.

The KJV has no notes, so you attack the alternate readings in the margin.

You attack the “changes” demanded by King James I. Anyone with an ounce of brains already knows that those changes are of no importance except to make the King feel good.

Even the Catholic bibles have had changes in them. Here is what the KJV Translators had to say about this...

“18 Nay, we will yet come nearer the quick: doth not their Paris edition differ from the Lovaine, and Hentenius’s from them both, and yet all of them allowed by authority?”

20 “Nay, further, did not the same Sixtus ordain by an inviolable decree, and that with the counsel and consent of his cardinals, that the Latin edition of the Old and New Testament, which the Council of Trent would have to be authentic, is the same without controversy which he then set forth, being diligently corrected and printed in the printing-house of Vatican? Thus Sixtus in his preface before his Bible.
• 21 And yet Clement the Eighth his immediate successor, publisheth another edition of the Bible, containing in it infinite differences from that of Sixtus, (and many of them weighty and material) and yet this must be authentic by all means”.

You attack the Translators and someone posted in another thread that the translators were unknown.

I posted a complete list of translators. Not a hack among them.

So you say there are books missing. I checked my publisher and they have a KJV with the Apocrypha and you can also order it in a separate printing..

Everyone should read the Apocrypha at least once so you will see why they are as irrelivant as THE SHEPHERD OF HERMAS, which is in the Alexandrian MMS..

The translators of the KJV in their preface (missing in most modern printings except the larger Cambridge editions)state precisely what their goal was in the KJV translation, “to make a good one better”.

Are there better translations today? YES! But they don’t have the “music” that public reading of the KJV has.

The KJV! Four hundred years old and still going strong!


200 posted on 11/29/2010 7:32:34 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; vladimir998; fortheDeclaration; Mr Rogers
So you say there are books missing. I checked my publisher and they have a KJV with the Apocrypha and you can also order it in a separate printing..

Everyone should read the Apocrypha at least once so you will see why they are as irrelivant(sic) as THE SHEPHERD OF HERMAS, which is in the Alexandrian MMS..

The KJV! Four hundred years old and still going strong!

From 397- until the 17th century the only Bibles contained the Duetrocanicals, approximately 1300 years and you are bragging about a measly 400 years.

Get over your self and get some perspective.

Look at the very first machine printed Bibles from Gutenberg in the 1450's everyone of them contained the duetrocanicals in order and complete.

Quit acting like a petulant child and do some real adult research.

202 posted on 11/29/2010 11:31:09 AM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You wrote:

“Vladimer said the English translations were good, then attacks them.”

False. All translations have good and bad points. I always distinguish one from the other whenever I talk about any translation. Was the KJV a good translation overall? Yes. Was it faulty as well? Yes. The two are not mutually exclusive. The two are in fact quite common - typical in fact.


209 posted on 11/29/2010 1:48:12 PM PST by vladimir998 (The anti-Catholic will now evade or lie. Watch.)
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