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To: vladimir998
Well, I disagree it was a 'church' matter.

And the real 'church' are those who are truely saved in Christ, not any organized body that claims that IT is the church.

155 posted on 11/27/2010 8:20:45 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: fortheDeclaration

You wrote:

“Well, I disagree it was a ‘church’ matter.”

It doesn’t matter. Your opinion is not history. It was considered a Church matter then no matter what your opinion 600 years later. Also, common sense would dictate that a Christian matter is automatically a Church matter.

“And the real ‘church’ are those who are truely saved in Christ, not any organized body that claims that IT is the church.”

False. You are making the same mistake that almost all Protestants make. Since Protestants have no historical Church to speak of they created the invisible church concept to explain their complete absense from history for over 1400 years. Thus, reading back into the NT, they see the Church as a body of all believers not realizing that at the time of the NT the believers were all one body, one Church. Those who broke away were not considered fully part of the one body because they had left the Church. Most Protestants today take umbrage at that concept because they believe it is an insult to the quality of their belief in Christ. in reality it is simply a statement about the actual existence of the Church.


163 posted on 11/28/2010 6:56:34 AM PST by vladimir998 (The anti-Catholic will now evade or lie. Watch.)
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