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Palin Support Limited Among Wealthy, College-Educated Republicans (here comes MSM talking points)
The New York Times ^ | November 24, 2010, 8:44 pm | By NATE SILVER

Posted on 11/24/2010 6:12:30 PM PST by dselig

Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor, is among the more natural populist politicians of our time, frequently critiquing elites in the press, the Democratic Party, and the Republican establishment. It is one of the reasons — along with her working-class background and the sense of authenticity that she can often convey — that she is so popular with some voters.

One potential problem for Ms. Palin, however, is that plenty of well-to-do and well-educated voters — those whom we might think of as belonging to the elite — will be participating in the Republican primaries.

Three recent surveys of Republican primary voters suggest significant divides in support for Ms. Palin based on the educational attainment of the voter. A poll released this morning by Marist College show Ms. Palin as the first choice of 17 percent of Republicans who have not graduated from college, giving her a slight lead among that group. But her support is just 7 percent among Republican college graduates, which placed her fifth behind Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingirch and Chris Christie.

A Quinnipiac poll, likewise, finds Ms. Palin with the support of 22 percent of Republicans who have not graduated from college, but of 10 percent of those who have. A CNN poll, meanwhile — using a slightly different criterion that focuses on whether voters attended college, whether or not they graduated from it — finds Ms. Palin drawing 20 percent of Republican voters who haven’t attended college, but only 9 percent of those who have.

The candidate whose numbers move in an opposite direction from Ms. Palin is Mitt Romney. On average over the three surveys, he had the support of 15 percent of “no college” voters, but 25 percent of Republicans with higher levels of educational attainment.

(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com ...


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To: Sarah Barracuda

I wasn’t polled either. I have a college degree and my first choice is Palin.


81 posted on 11/24/2010 7:43:23 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: dselig
Sarah Palin has more support from the American public than the leftist-marxist snobs of the media and the RINO Ruling Class imagined. This has surprised them and frightened them.

They sorely afraid that their games will be exposed and that they'll be thrown out of power by a populist conservative uprising in the nation.

That's why we see this media produced filth, trashing her and her conservative supporters. Don't pay any attention to it. The cabal of Democrat Party marxists, Democrat Party media liars and Ruling Class RINO blue bloods are desperate to have a Mitt Romney or some one like him as the Republican Party presidential candidate.

82 posted on 11/24/2010 7:45:09 PM PST by StormEye
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To: bwc2221

If you go back and examine the press of the day, you will find that you are right. Remember, Bush ‘41 was running against Reagan in the primaries leading up to the ‘80 election, he won Iowa, lost NH (probably as a result of walking out on the debate) and lost the rest of the primaries.

The politics inside the GOP during the ‘80 election are coming back today. Back then, the oh-so-terribly-smart Ivy League types thought that Reagan was a “cowboy” and was about to start a war with the Russians because he was so ‘stupid’ and ‘without nuance.’ There was a widespread meme, spread in part by the blue bloods, that Reagan was overly simplistic and a rube on international affairs.

For those of us with a memory, the pattern repeats. Sadly for the “wealthy, college educated Republicans,” (of which I could be counted, if I weren’t such a gun-toting redneck, I suppose), their track record in the Bush ‘41 and Bush ‘43 administrations is miserable. Bush ‘41 got us into Iraq the first time, and didn’t finish the job. Bush ‘43 gets us back into Iraq, and doesn’t finish the job - again. We get into Afghanistan for good measure, a bottomless pit of dark ages non-thinking into which we cannot impose modern civilization without about 200 years of forced learning.

Then for good measure, we have the financial and fiscal records of the two Bush administrations is perfectly horrible. Bush ‘43 fired two perfectly competent SecTreas guys who wouldn’t blow sunshine up his backside, and replaces them with another Ivy League grifter and thief writ most large, who perpetrates the single largest theft in the history of mankind.

If this is what we have to look forward to if we elect another oh-so-terribly-smart Ivy League grad, count me out. I’d vote for Howdy Doody before I vote for another idiot with a Harvard degree.

About all I want in a president at this point is someone with enough common sense to know the difference between their ass and a warm rock. That seems to be a quality completely lacking in the candidates in both parties.


83 posted on 11/24/2010 7:48:34 PM PST by NVDave
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To: RichInOC

I was wondering who this “Gingirch” fellow was. If the NYT geniuses say he’s polling well, I may have to vote for him.


84 posted on 11/24/2010 7:51:35 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: ReformedBeckite

This educated redneck would like to see lawyers dumped from politics and replaced by normal people, engineers, businessmen and those who achieved something rather than those who lie and BS when electioneering.
Vote the bastRATs out!


85 posted on 11/24/2010 7:55:25 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: vbmoneyspender
Wealthy college educated republicans..."

Sounds like the damn RINO Bushes to me. "Sarah Palin isn't smart enough to be president...everyone at the country club says so..."

86 posted on 11/24/2010 7:56:46 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: dselig

I fall into that category and I’d say it fits me well, I don’t care much for her Democrat-lite class warfare pandering and hypocritical endorsement of John McCain. I don’t support Romney though, I’d pick Ron Paul off that list or Chris Christie more realistically.


87 posted on 11/24/2010 8:03:12 PM PST by youthgonewild
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To: Seruzawa

“Elite” in the US seems to increasingly mean that mommy married well, then daddy got Junior a “legacy” admission to a school with a big name.

We can see a pattern here: Bush Jr., Al Gore, Kerry, et al. Mediocre students with well connected parents. Bubba Clinton sort of broke the mold on the parental aspect, but he gained admission by going to the right schools, marrying a blue blood and talking the hind legs off any particular donkey.

And now we have Obama, who is so proud of his grades he won’t release them.

One of the reasons why these pinheads were so scared of Reagan was that Reagan had an original thought: That it was possible to not only have peace, but have peace AND not have the USSR at the same time. As Reagan’s papers, letters and notes have been published, we gain insight into the man’s mind, and he was far from stupid. We have learned that he was unwilling to accept the status quo of the elites of the day, ie, that we could have only detente’ with the USSR while hoping to “contain” their expansion.

In that day, Reagan’s ideas were truly unique.

History has proven that Reagan’s ideas carried the day, and the elites were wrong.


88 posted on 11/24/2010 8:04:45 PM PST by NVDave
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To: dselig

Well, I’m a college graduate, and at this point, Sarah Palin looks like the best candidate to me! If she decides not to run, or if someone else appears who looks to be a stronger candidate, I could be persuaded to change, but at this point, I support Sarah!


89 posted on 11/24/2010 8:07:48 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: vbmoneyspender

You recall right.


90 posted on 11/24/2010 8:11:12 PM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: This Just In; dselig

Just because someone posts an article, doesn’t necessarily mean they agree with what the article says. We need to always know what the other side is saying, so that we can know how to discuss the issues with other folks, so we can convince them of OUR positions on them.


91 posted on 11/24/2010 8:14:30 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: dselig
One potential problem for Ms. Palin, however, is that plenty of well-to-do and well-educated voters — those whom we might think of as belonging to the elite — will be participating in the Republican primaries.

The new occupation media narrative.
92 posted on 11/24/2010 8:20:26 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: dselig

Obviously the brainwashing does not take full hold on the mind until college.


93 posted on 11/24/2010 8:22:42 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: This Just In

I saw the born on date and thought it was a ZOT thread. The night is still young.


94 posted on 11/24/2010 8:23:17 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: dselig

It just goes to show you that when it comes to Romney, you can fool some of the people all of the time.

Also, according to that graph, Huckabee should be the nominee because he can appeal to both groups equally. /s


95 posted on 11/24/2010 8:29:45 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: dselig

The Neoantiknownothing Party of Palin.

That about sums this up right?


96 posted on 11/24/2010 8:31:58 PM PST by JerseyHighlander (p.s. The word 'bloggers' is not in the freerepublic spellcheck dictionary?!)
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To: goodnesswins
The Disadvantages of an Elite Education
November 22, 2010 1 Comment

“Our best universities have forgotten that the reason they exist is to make minds, not careers”

H/T Sahil

Intro (Via William Deresiewicz @ American Scholar)

It didn’t dawn on me that there might be a few holes in my education until I was about 35. I’d just bought a house, the pipes needed fixing, and the plumber was standing in my kitchen. There he was, a short, beefy guy with a goatee and a Red Sox cap and a thick Boston accent, and I suddenly learned that I didn’t have the slightest idea what to say to someone like him. So alien was his experience to me, so unguessable his values, so mysterious his very language, that I couldn’t succeed in engaging him in a few minutes of small talk before he got down to work. Fourteen years of higher education and a handful of Ivy League degrees, and there I was, stiff and stupid, struck dumb by my own dumbness. “Ivy retardation,” a friend of mine calls this. I could carry on conversations with people from other countries, in other languages, but I couldn’t talk to the man who was standing in my own house.

It’s not surprising that it took me so long to discover the extent of my miseducation, because the last thing an elite education will teach you is its own inadequacy. As two dozen years at Yale and Columbia have shown me, elite colleges relentlessly encourage their students to flatter themselves for being there, and for what being there can do for them. The advantages of an elite education are indeed undeniable. You learn to think, at least in certain ways, and you make the contacts needed to launch yourself into a life rich in all of society’s most cherished rewards. To consider that while some opportunities are being created, others are being cancelled and that while some abilities are being developed, others are being crippled is, within this context, not only outrageous, but inconceivable.

Interesting Excerpt (Via William Deresiewicz @ American Scholar)


One of the great errors of an elite education, then, is that it teaches you to think that measures of intelligence and academic achievement are measures of value in some moral or metaphysical sense. But they’re not. Graduates of elite schools are not more valuable than stupid people, or talentless people, or even lazy people. Their pain does not hurt more. Their souls do not weigh more. If I were religious, I would say, God does not love them more. The political implications should be clear. As John Ruskin told an older elite, grabbing what you can get isn’t any less wicked when you grab it with the power of your brains than with the power of your fists. “Work must always be,” Ruskin says, “and captains of work must always be….[But] there is a wide difference between being captains…of work, and taking the profits of it.”

Click Here To Read: The Disadvantages of an Elite Education


97 posted on 11/24/2010 8:35:30 PM PST by JerseyHighlander (p.s. The word 'bloggers' is not in the freerepublic spellcheck dictionary?!)
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To: vbmoneyspender

ROTFLOL


98 posted on 11/24/2010 8:40:35 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: vbmoneyspender

What they mean is “the what can you do for me by making a promise you won’t keep” crowd votes for Obama.


99 posted on 11/24/2010 8:42:10 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Thanks, I’ll read that later.....luckily I went to City University of Seattle, fulltime, while working FULLTIME....and in the 1980’s....there was no time for Politics ....I went on weekends and nights....intense, and taught by people who actually worked in business!


100 posted on 11/24/2010 8:51:58 PM PST by goodnesswins (You deciding how to spend your health care $, thatÂ’s freedom. Govt deciding, thats a death panel)
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