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Sounds to me like the TSA is profiling people OUT of the suspected groups. So...EVERYONE is unknown and untrusted except pilots and flight attendants.

Here's an idea: profile FOR likely suspects, and assume everyone else is known and trusted.

This garbage I'm hearing about the underwear bomber being the catalyst for this is ridiculous. The guy was a suspected TERRORIST ALREADY. No one was surprised. Hell, even the guy's FATHER was trying to warn the authorities, IIRC.

And now we have nuns being groped...all in a violation of the fourth amendment. Searches and seizures need to be reasonable and with probable cause.

1 posted on 11/24/2010 6:54:22 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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In Obamaland, you can’t ask illegals for proof of identity, but you can strip-search every American citizen at an airport.

In Obamaland, we drop bombs on people in the remote mountains of Pakistan, but we leave our entire Southern Border wide open.

In Obamaland, the First Lady proposes spending $400 million for healthy salad bars in school, while the Gov’t “Safe Schools” Czar wants to teach kids about “fisting.”

In Obamaland, every American citizen is forced to buy Gov’t approved health-insurance, but no one can make you prove you are a citizen.

Welcome to Bizzaro Obamaland, once known as the United States.


2 posted on 11/24/2010 6:55:07 AM PST by PGR88
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All the rest of us subjects are under suspicion of wanting to subvert our government because we don’t like their protection extortion racket. Incredible.


3 posted on 11/24/2010 6:56:20 AM PST by o_zarkman44 ("When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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It’s very clear—Napolitano, Obama and the rest are a combination of useful idiots and tyrants. (The “idiot” in useful idiot has real meaning, by the way.)

The idiot’s greatest fear is the hand of the tyrant.

The tyrant’s greatest fear is being an idiot.

In the end, each succombs to his greatest fear.


6 posted on 11/24/2010 7:09:05 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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Arent they used to being patted down and groped anyway lol?


7 posted on 11/24/2010 7:09:59 AM PST by Moleman
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pat downs themselves are exception events since most people don’t get pat-downs. They are supposedly triggered by behavior, setting off detectors, not willing to go through other security measures etc It seems no one should be exempt if they create suspicion. Also couldn’t a terrorist impersonate a flight attendant?


9 posted on 11/24/2010 7:13:28 AM PST by plain talk
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I am not saying there’s a conspiracy here but my observation of all the photos and youtubes I’ve seen reveal that everyone being patted down is Caucasian. Is it just me? Surely that can’t be the ‘policy’,,,but I see picture after picture and one interview after another and the people who are coming forward are Caucasian. Any thoughts?


10 posted on 11/24/2010 7:13:53 AM PST by austinaero ((More Bark, Less Wag))
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Flight attendents, politicians and pilots are exempt, I guess thats one way of shutting them up. And now that they are exempt they won’t be worrying about the rest of the public.


11 posted on 11/24/2010 7:14:06 AM PST by Americanexpat
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“Non-Muslims, like flight attendants and like pilots, are a known and trusted group.” True or false?


12 posted on 11/24/2010 7:15:05 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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...so are House and Senate members, meaning if you were hoping Nancy Pelosi would be forced to suffer the indignities inflicted on the masses, you’ll be disappointed. As for pilots and flight attendents, the Obama administration is probably just caving to the unions again.


15 posted on 11/24/2010 7:28:12 AM PST by cake_crumb (President Reagan on ObieCare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs&feature=player_embedded#)
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CAIR is telling muslims to ask TSA to pat themselves down!!!!!!!

“If the officer confirms you were referred to secondary because of your head scarf, before you are patted down, you should remind the TSA officer, who should be of the same gender, that they are only supposed to pat down the area in question, in this scenario, your head and neck.

You can always request to pat down your own scarf, including head and neck area, and have the officer perform a residue swab of your hands.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20101124/pl_usnw/DC07469_1


21 posted on 11/24/2010 7:55:35 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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So all a terrorist group has to do is to get one of them hired as a flight attendant?


22 posted on 11/24/2010 7:59:23 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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Do you know how real profiling works? More specifically, do you know how the Israeli model of profiling works? (Since this is the model that I advocate.) FYI: It doesn’t work like a lot of people here seem to think that it does.


26 posted on 11/24/2010 8:17:23 AM PST by freedomwarrior998
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I wonder what kind of id check is performed. Does all one need to do is don a pilot's or flight attendant's uniform and cobble up an id? Sounds like a vector has just been opened if biometrics aren't involved.

And that is the real problem ... it isn't that duh, the pilot can crash the plane, it is how does TSA at the entrance to the secure area know that what looks like a pilot is actually a pilot?

27 posted on 11/24/2010 8:18:30 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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Anyone know what the ACLU has to say about all of this? I know when Bush was in office, anything and everything he proposed was immediately deemed illegal and a violation of peoples rights.


28 posted on 11/24/2010 8:34:37 AM PST by chessplayer
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Just ban muslims from flying.


29 posted on 11/24/2010 8:35:11 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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MSNBC says anyone opposed to the pat-downs and strip searches is a racist. (video)

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/msnbc-schultz%E2%80%99s-tsa-junkgate-just-excuse-for-black-president-hating-right-to-promote-racial-profiling/


30 posted on 11/24/2010 8:38:24 AM PST by chessplayer
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Opposition to strip-searching 10 year olds is a vast conspiracy.

http://www.thenation.com/article/156647/tsastroturf-washington-lobbyists-and-koch-funded-libertarians-behind-tsa-scandal


31 posted on 11/24/2010 8:48:29 AM PST by chessplayer
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Holder / Obamaland bump for later.........


32 posted on 11/24/2010 8:50:50 AM PST by indthkr
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... after that it will be law enforcement
then the elderly
and then members of Congress and cabinet members
then members of state legislatures
then anyone with a union card
then minorities
etc. etc.

Meanwhile white male internet bloggers will receive a public colonoscopy with every screening in order to keep health costs down.


33 posted on 11/24/2010 8:56:29 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)
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Eqypt air 990 1999...NY to Cairo

copilot yells Allah Akbar and plunges the plane,crew and passengers into the Atlantic Ocean off of Nantucket.

no thank you, but the crew gets no free pass, especially if they are muzzies.

34 posted on 11/24/2010 8:59:42 AM PST by Vaquero (Dont pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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