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Deliberate or Accidental, a New Korean War Would be Devastating
Politics Daily ^ | 11/23/2010 | David Wood

Posted on 11/23/2010 7:29:21 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Deliberate or Accidental, a New Korean War Would be Devastating

The soaring modern glass towers of downtown Seoul are magnificent -- and to a North Korean artillery officer squinting through his sights from just 32 miles away, a delicious set of targets. The glistening South Korean capital is a city of glass, almost literally in the shadow of some 500 long-range heavy artillery guns from which North Korea can fire half a million artillery shells an hour, for several hours.

A war on the Korean peninsula could explode almost without warning, senior U.S. military officers say. North Korea's immediate, if suicidal, intent in such a conflict: to demolish Seoul in a blizzard of glass shards and cause tens of thousands of casualties, before U.S. and South Korea forces could react.

That is why millions of people living in Seoul regularly practice scrambling into bomb shelters in subway stations -- and why any disruption in "normal'' relations with the reclusive and unpredictable regime to the north quickly gets the world's attention: a surprise attack from the North, whether deliberate or a miscalculation, would be bloody and costly, and likely would trigger all-out war.

Within hours of North Korea's apparently unprovoked artillery attack on South Korean territory and the South's retaliatory artillery barrage, U.S. officials, diplomats and policy analysts were assuring each other that this was only a "provocation'' by the North. The Obama administration took a rhetorical firm but low-key line on Tuesday, with Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell saying that the North Korean attack was "not, frankly, out of pattern for the North lately."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: accidental; china; deliberate; devastating; japan; korea; korean; new; northkorea; southkorea; war
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To: John123

For short periods of time, perhaps. But sustained for even an hour? I’m skeptical as well.


21 posted on 11/23/2010 7:53:03 PM PST by NVDave
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I see it as we go to war with North Korea, we are going to war with China.

The last thing I want for the U.S. at this time in history, this point in history is to go to war against China lead by this addzhole Obama as CIC, with his puppet Master having other conflicting priorities.

It is one “H” of an ugly picture. Damn the American public for voting in that jerk as President.


22 posted on 11/23/2010 7:53:27 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How would that be a problem for us? The Republic of Korea blames us for starting the Korean War in 1950 (this really is the majority opinion of their population). The Norks should invade them again to remind them to fork over more danegeld. The ROK’s will pay off. It’s what they’re for. They respect only their enemies.


23 posted on 11/23/2010 7:54:42 PM PST by Thud
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To: SumProVita
They believe Obama will do nothing....

At this time in history, I wish we had a president in office who would not hesitate to rain fire down on NK if they were to do such a thing. Swift and immediate. Tactical nukes if necessary but a severe whipping of a petulant child that would give pause to ANY any other country contemplating such an action.

24 posted on 11/23/2010 7:55:28 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (NASA? Muslims? Muslims will want to go to the moon only when Israel sets up shop there.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Obama sometimes appears incoherent in meetings.....not a good sign.

Although there's a HUGE difference between "incoherent" and "stoned," Obongo combines both attributes, along with "detached."

25 posted on 11/23/2010 7:55:28 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: SumProVita
President Obama's response:

Bill Clinton

Yes, it's a different cowardly Democrat president, but the response will be the same: Talk.

26 posted on 11/23/2010 7:55:54 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Conservative Tsunami
This goes back to 1951. Our first war after WW2. Truman fired McArthur who wanted to use tactical nuclear weapons. 35-40 thousand dead Americans. This war set the stage that America would not fight to win a war. Truman's decision won him lasting praise.* China was still under the grip of Mao. 85 million Chinese were slaughtered under Mao.

* not mine.

27 posted on 11/23/2010 7:56:30 PM PST by cliff630
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To: The_Media_never_lie

28 posted on 11/23/2010 7:57:21 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: rockinqsranch

Your comment about China, which may be accurate, reveals the real enemy here.

Because we won’t go after NK we can’t win.


29 posted on 11/23/2010 7:57:41 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: John123

I seriously doubt that each tube has that many rounds total, since the tube itself is not going to survive counter-battery fire very long. Why stack the ammo when the gun is destroyed?


30 posted on 11/23/2010 7:57:41 PM PST by Tallguy (Received a fine from the NFL for a helmet-to-helmet hit.)
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To: rockinqsranch
I see it as we go to war with North Korea, we are going to war with China.

Been that way more or less since the 1950s.

Seoul needs to unload an inmmediate proportional response before this gets out of hand. And THEN the "Peacemakers" can step in.

31 posted on 11/23/2010 7:58:28 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: SumProVita
"They believe Obama will do nothing...."

True, but that's nothing new. Once North Korea was reasonably contained and after the Armistice, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush 41, Clinton, and Bush 43 didn't do much, either.

Incidents with North Korea have been occurring for more than 50 years. Some have been even nastier than the current crop of incidents.

32 posted on 11/23/2010 7:58:40 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Tallguy

Might it be a different world if we seriously were considering taking out NK?


33 posted on 11/23/2010 7:59:12 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Your not going to fly a C-130 over NK airspace until every MiG & SAM is eliminated. AFAIK the Herk is the only aircraft capable of dropping the MOAB.


34 posted on 11/23/2010 7:59:35 PM PST by Tallguy (Received a fine from the NFL for a helmet-to-helmet hit.)
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To: lurk

They provocate, we cave in and pay them off. It is a long-standing tradition. Look for payoffs from the US of food, oil, money and uranium.


35 posted on 11/23/2010 8:01:31 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Conservative Tsunami

Unless the RoK wants to get used to watching the Norks kill their people for political “posturing” purposes, they have one course of action: A massive coordinated de-fanging and decapitation attack. By de-fanging, I mean take out as many of the Nork’s artillery batteries and nuke facilities as possible. We all know what I mean by decapitating.

Would have to be by surprise, completely coordinated, and fast so it could be done before the Chicoms responded. Then hunker down.

Japan should be consulted first, but they have made it clear that a military response is in order.

Obama should NOT be told. The Won would betray them, probably under cover of “preventing escalation,” but we all know that wouldn’t be his real reason.


36 posted on 11/23/2010 8:02:08 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: piytar

The sort of scenario you talked about has little chance of happening even in arcade games. Without US support, South Korea and Japan don’t have the dept of firepower to launch a focused strike which can eliminate most of North Korea’s artillery and missile sites. Besides US forces in the peninsula and Japan would almost certainly be targetted in reprisals.


37 posted on 11/23/2010 8:06:14 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Conservative Tsunami

“If it were up to me, the 35,000 or so American troops standing as sentries for SK would have pulled out decades ago.”

Agreed, but esp now with a CinC (gag) who couldn’t care less if they were all killed and likely wouldn’t do anything if they were.


38 posted on 11/23/2010 8:07:03 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That’s why we must appease the North Koreans at every opportunity.


39 posted on 11/23/2010 8:07:31 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Conservative Tsunami

New war? It would be a resumption of combat operations of an existing war.

=8-)


40 posted on 11/23/2010 8:08:40 PM PST by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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