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Health Tyrants
IBD Editorials ^ | November 20, 2010 | WALTER WILLIAMS

Posted on 11/22/2010 5:24:14 PM PST by Kaslin

Do federal, state and local governments have a right to intervene in our lives when it comes to choices affecting our health?

Recently, San Francisco's board of supervisors voted to forbid restaurants from giving gifts with meals that contain too much fat and sugar, a measure aimed at McDonald's Happy Meals. The reasoning of these tyrants is to prevent McDonald's from using toys to lure children into liking foods the board deems non-nutritious.

Fortunately, San Francisco's mayor, Gavin Newsom, by no means a libertarian, has threatened to veto the measure saying, "Despite its good intentions, I cannot support this unwise and unprecedented governmental intrusion into parental responsibilities and private choices."

If the board of supervisors gets away with this intrusion into parental responsibilities and choices, we can bet the rent money that they will not stop with McDonald's Happy Meals. The reason is that Happy Meals are not the only contributors to child obesity. What and how much they eat at home, what time they eat and how much they exercise play a role.

When the San Francisco supervisors see that their Happy Meal ban has not produced the desired results, they'll seek to widen their reach. That might include laws that set purchase limits on non-nutritious items in the city's grocery stores.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: healthcare; healthscare; walterwilliams; zerocare
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1 posted on 11/22/2010 5:24:15 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Thanks, Kaslin!

...Think back to the 1964, the time of the "First Surgeon General Report: Smoking and Health." Back then, tobacco zealots called for "reasonable" measures such as warning labels on cigarettes and restrictions on advertising.

Oh, ha-ha, I can't remember 1964...

2 posted on 11/22/2010 9:13:50 PM PST by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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To: Kaslin; MaggieCarta
Fortunately, San Francisco's mayor, Gavin Newsom, by no means a libertarian, has threatened to veto the measure saying, "Despite its good intentions, I cannot support this unwise and unprecedented governmental intrusion into parental responsibilities and private choices."
Oh. my. God.

A San Francisco politician making sense?

What the hell is this world coming to?

3 posted on 11/22/2010 9:16:33 PM PST by BluesDuke (Another brief interlude from the small apartment halfway up in the middle of nowhere in particular)
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To: MaggieCarta
...If you think government has the right to look after our health, how far would you have it go? How about a congressional mandate for morning calisthenics, eight glasses of water a day and eight hours of sleep each night?

You should hear some of my collegues who think that this would be perfectly ok.

4 posted on 11/22/2010 9:19:30 PM PST by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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To: BluesDuke
A San Francisco politician making sense?

What the hell is this world coming to?

I know, it's like the same cosmic tear in the universe that I feel when the (Detroit) Lions don't lose...

5 posted on 11/22/2010 9:21:59 PM PST by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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To: Kaslin

The kids will be smokin’ dope in front of Mickey D’s waitin’ for the Happy Meal pusher man.


6 posted on 11/22/2010 9:27:45 PM PST by this_ol_patriot (I work so those on welfare don't have to ;-)
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To: MaggieCarta
I know, it's like the same cosmic tear in the universe that I feel when the (Detroit) Lions don't lose...
Cosmic tear, hell---when your Lions or my Mets don't lose what I feel is a helluvan impersonation of the Crab Nebula . . .
7 posted on 11/22/2010 9:31:32 PM PST by BluesDuke (Another brief interlude from the small apartment halfway up in the middle of nowhere in particular)
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To: BluesDuke
Cosmic tear, hell---when your Lions or my Mets don't lose what I feel is a helluvan impersonation of the Crab Nebula . . .

;)

Have a good evening, BluesDuke!

8 posted on 11/22/2010 9:37:12 PM PST by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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To: MaggieCarta

You too, Lady Maggie! ;)


9 posted on 11/22/2010 9:38:38 PM PST by BluesDuke (Another brief interlude from the small apartment halfway up in the middle of nowhere in particular)
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To: Kaslin; Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; ...

Nanny State PING!


10 posted on 11/24/2010 6:48:23 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: this_ol_patriot

Or abusing prescription pain medication like Percocet and Oxycontin.

It’s cheaper than cigarettes, you can use them anywhere in any club and it’s probably a lot more fun.

Libs will wish for the good old days where smoking a cigarette in the boys room was their biggest problem.


11 posted on 11/24/2010 7:50:35 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Beware of the Socialist Government-Academia Grant Junkie-Rich "non-profit"-Liberal Media Complex)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


12 posted on 11/24/2010 7:55:54 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: BluesDuke; Kaslin

Well, you know things have gone badly off the tracks when Gavin Newsom is your voice of reason. It just highlights how absurd this law really is.


13 posted on 11/25/2010 2:30:49 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: FreedomPoster
Should we be surprised when government tells us what food to give our children? Should we be surprised when government taxes soft drinks in the name of fighting obesity? Should we be surprised when governments order restaurants not to serve foie gras or cook with trans fats?

It just highlights how absurd this law really is.

Is it the law that is absurd? Or should our question actually be, by what Right do they legislate such insanity?

And before folks go off on 0bamacare, consider these types of laws existed before 0bamacare. These laws will not go away if 0bamacare is repealed, so the question remains...by what Right do they tell us what we can/can't eat?

By the Right of your tax dollars? Not everyone who eats these things have your tax dollars paying for their care, although one could argue our tax dollars should not be collected or spent on such things.

But consider the fact that they are legislating against all of us. Taxpayer, non-taxpayer, insurance payer, non-insurance payer...

So, the question remains...what Right are they infringing upon with such legislation?

14 posted on 11/25/2010 2:51:47 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There is NO constitutional right to a toy in a happy meal.

Plus, Newsom is showboating, his veto will be overridden.

Our children will be safe from the devious incursions of CorporateMarketers.


15 posted on 11/29/2010 12:40:00 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: MaggieCarta

It is eerily scary, isn’t it, how so many Americans welcome the diktats of the NannyState.

Well, time to subvert as many kids as one can into the principles of liberty and individual rights.

I gave a copy of the Constitution to my 10 year old nephew.

That’s putting subversive ideas in their minds.


16 posted on 11/29/2010 12:43:00 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: swarthyguy
...Well, time to subvert as many kids as one can into the principles of liberty and individual rights....

I would only add that you must include "personal responsibility" with the "individual rights" part. Most kids actually are quite well versed in their "rights" (in quotes, because health care is NOT a right)

What they sometimes seem to lack is a sense of understanding the nature of a right versus a wish.

17 posted on 11/29/2010 1:45:05 PM PST by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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To: swarthyguy

PS: Your tagline is so fitting for this thread.


18 posted on 11/29/2010 1:45:56 PM PST by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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To: MaggieCarta

This is certainly a nit, but to me the freedoms that come with rights inherently carry the burden of responsiblity with them.

And thanks for the tagline compliment.


19 posted on 11/29/2010 2:18:58 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: swarthyguy
This is certainly a nit, but to me the freedoms that come with rights inherently carry the burden of responsiblity with them.

Unfortunately, your stance is fast becoming nothing more than a quaint sentiment. I'm glad that your nephew will have a chance to learn that rights and responsibilities are yoked together.

And thanks for the tagline compliment.

You are very welcome. Have a good evening.

20 posted on 11/29/2010 3:57:27 PM PST by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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