[Lando Lincoln]

I absolutely, positively, without-a-doubt agree with you fellow tribesman. It is amazing that we believe the government is too dumb to tie their shoes, but can simultaneously pull off a conspiracy/cover-up of epic proportions.

[Finny]

Names Ash lives in San Diego. Names Ash is a private pilot who has flow in L.A. area skies, but as far as I can tell, lives 225 to 260 miles south-east (150 miles EAST) of Vandenerg's missile launches. NAH repeatedly claimed "I LIVE here!" when attempting to establish bona-fides with regard to empirical experience watching missile launches and seeing airline contrails. But "here" is the Los Angeles area, NOT 90 miles south-east in San Diego. NAH mislead people into thinking otherwise. NAH is no more familiar with L.A. area's nightly skies than L.A. residents are familiar with San Diego's nightly skies.

MANY of us have lived our entire lives within 25 to 160 miles of Vandenberg's launches and have watched them with binoculars as well as the naked eye; we have also watched hundreds of airplane contrails with the naked eye and, in my case personally, with binoculars. It is why I can state with 100 percent certainty that at the range the video was shot, there is ZERO possiblity that the cameraman was confused. ZILCH. If you want to argue that the cameraman told bold-faced LIES in his interview, go ahead, but you won't be able to explain how he managed to manipulate the lighting in the video to make an east-bound horizontal contrail look like a north-west bound vertial plume. And you have people working overtime to convince your lyin' eyes and three-dimension-perceiving brain that you saw otherwise, while simultaneously appealing to your ego by praising you as "calm" and "level headed" for allowing yourself to be so bamboozled.

You want to talk about a conspiracy/cover-up of epic proportions? You're witntessing it in the most bizarre layers of self-deception one can imagine -- in the gullible folks who won't believe their lyin' eyes or hear the warning of people actually familiar with the area and the phenomenon.

[Names Ash Housewares]

“I absolutely, positively, without-a-doubt agree with you fellow tribesman. It is amazing that we believe the government is too dumb to tie their shoes, but can simultaneously pull off a conspiracy/cover-up of epic proportions.”

I’ve run into the mindset before all too often.
People needing to believe something so bad there is no way offering examinable data makes any difference.

You watch, that youtube vid is extremely well put together, done with software tools we all have access too, done with data that is public and easily found and sources provided.

Yet it won’t make any difference to some.

It reminds me very much of moon landing hoax whackos.
Same deal.