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To: Lando Lincoln; Names Ash Housewares
Names Ash lives in San Diego. Names Ash is a private pilot who has flow in L.A. area skies, but as far as I can tell, lives 225 to 260 miles south-east (150 miles EAST) of Vandenerg's missile launches. NAH repeatedly claimed "I LIVE here!" when attempting to establish bona-fides with regard to empirical experience watching missile launches and seeing airline contrails. But "here" is the Los Angeles area, NOT 90 miles south-east in San Diego. NAH mislead people into thinking otherwise. NAH is no more familiar with L.A. area's nightly skies than L.A. residents are familiar with San Diego's nightly skies.

MANY of us have lived our entire lives within 25 to 160 miles of Vandenberg's launches and have watched them with binoculars as well as the naked eye; we have also watched hundreds of airplane contrails with the naked eye and, in my case personally, with binoculars. It is why I can state with 100 percent certainty that at the range the video was shot, there is ZERO possiblity that the cameraman was confused. ZILCH. If you want to argue that the cameraman told bold-faced LIES in his interview, go ahead, but you won't be able to explain how he managed to manipulate the lighting in the video to make an east-bound horizontal contrail look like a north-west bound vertial plume. And you have people working overtime to convince your lyin' eyes and three-dimension-perceiving brain that you saw otherwise, while simultaneously appealing to your ego by praising you as "calm" and "level headed" for allowing yourself to be so bamboozled.

You want to talk about a conspiracy/cover-up of epic proportions? You're witntessing it in the most bizarre layers of self-deception one can imagine -- in the gullible folks who won't believe their lyin' eyes or hear the warning of people actually familiar with the area and the phenomenon.

435 posted on 11/27/2010 10:57:40 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny; Lando Lincoln

Dude, your whacked.
Aircraft FLY to other areas.
Do you NOT understand that simple fact?
This is the SECOND time I have attempted to explain that to you.

The SECOND time explaining something so obvious a small chld can understand it.

LA airspace is as much my backyard as San Diego or Palm Springs, or Imperial Valley. Getting it???

Ate the Buffalo burgers on Catalina Island many times.
Can I have gotten any closer to the contrail area then that?

Hell I have spent tons of time in Santa Monica on the ground where my TV show editor friend lives as well. watched Vandenberg launches from there. Not that you need to be there, you can see them from San Diego in early stages of the launch.
I saw the launch just days before the contrail from here!

Getting it yet!

Probalby not. LOL

You can attempt to discredit me but you have no examinable supporting data to offer.

It was a UPS jet dude.

Deal with it.

That is the factual reality.

We have tons of data to examine right on the net that point directly to the UPS jet as source.

It really is the nail in the coffin.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJwQNdadIv4

He offers ALL the sources for the data.

http://contrailscience.com/

How the the hell do you explain away multiple camera angles ALL lining up with the UPS flight track perfectly as contrail source object? Including weather satellite?

You cannot.

It was a UPS jet.

And this whole thing is falling into the foaming at the mouth conspiracy types on the internet now, where it belongs.

It’s done and done.

UPS Jet.

End of story.

End of line.


436 posted on 11/27/2010 12:33:05 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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