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Barbara Bush Should Shut-Up
Riehl World View ^ | 11/20/10 | Riehl World View

Posted on 11/20/2010 12:13:04 PM PST by American Dream 246

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To: arrogantsob; Dr. Sivana; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

arrogantsob: And here I thought that Bush the Elder had raised your taxes. So will Nancyboy Kirk.


141 posted on 11/22/2010 3:59:39 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: Mountain Mary

Hear! Hear! Bravissimo!


142 posted on 11/22/2010 4:05:55 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: American Dream 246

The times that we are living in require a strong man: Allen West not Sarah Palin.


143 posted on 11/22/2010 4:07:04 PM PST by seoul62
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To: BlackElk
What we don't yet have is an obvious candidate to defeat him.

"We"? 'You' don't but 'conservatives' do. The media knows it but their pawns just repeat their mimic - and it's fun to watch/hear/read these sheep going around clueless.
144 posted on 11/22/2010 4:19:24 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: seoul62
The times that we are living in require a strong man: Allen West not Sarah Palin.

Sounds sexists.

If there is anyone else that has gone through 2 years of 24/7 media trashing and it doesn't touch them - bring them forward and we will talk about strong.
145 posted on 11/22/2010 4:24:33 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: presently no screen name

Well, I am a woman and that is my opinion and I will never vote for her. I like Allen West. No Romney, Pawlenty or Huckabee either. I like Jim De Mint or Mike Pence. My preference is always for a male candidate. What has become of my beloved America? I cry for it.


146 posted on 11/22/2010 5:26:19 PM PST by seoul62
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To: Brimack34

Arousing hatred is the media’s specialty. So 70% fell for it.


147 posted on 11/22/2010 11:29:36 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: BlackElk

My, my, my there just isn’t anyone who can live up to your oh, so high standards is there. Everyone falls so far short so we just have to vote for Democrats don’t we?


148 posted on 11/22/2010 11:34:14 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: BlackElk

Where did I ever say the Bush I should have raised taxes? And since he fell for the Democrat scam then had the media turn on him and use the tax raise as an excuse to defeat him I had no sympathy for him.

But the dumbasses who went Perot allowed the traitorous Clinton into office which inflicted enormous damage on our National Security. Damage which W had to correct or overcome.


149 posted on 11/22/2010 11:39:01 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: BlackElk

Well you are all for punishing achievers anyway so what is your beef with a tax increase?


150 posted on 11/22/2010 11:40:42 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: seoul62
My preference is always for a male candidate.

Soccermom mentality. Prevalent in clinton years. And w/barry - he's the 'man', he's our 'messiah'.

What has become of my beloved America? I cry for it.

Too many vote with their 'feelings'.
151 posted on 11/23/2010 3:55:51 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: presently no screen name

I am in a blue collar district in Queens, New York. Hardly what you would call a “Soccer Mom”. I do not define myself as that anyway, thank you. I just do not find any female candidates that I could vote for. Yes, as I am not an Android, but a Woman with emotions, yes I straight up vote with my feelings. I have never voted Democratic and I never will.


152 posted on 11/23/2010 4:49:21 AM PST by seoul62
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To: seoul62
Hardly what you would call a “Soccer Mom”

It's not a suburbia thing - it's a mindset. And, as you said, you vote on your feelings.
153 posted on 11/23/2010 6:20:12 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: presently no screen name

Female Politicians that I greatly admired: Aung Sang Suu Kyi, Margaret Thatcher and Golda Meir. I bid you and your Family A Blessed Thanksgiving.


154 posted on 11/23/2010 7:13:53 AM PST by seoul62
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To: arrogantsob; Dr. Sivana; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
You were rising in defense of Brainless abortion-loving Barbara, elitist extraordinaire, and consort of the the Elder and Tax Raiser. Isn't it amazing how absolutely regularly the "fiscal conservatives" like Bush the Elder fall for Demonrat scams? Such a regular phenomenon that you could almost believe that it is a plan as many of us do believe.

The exit polls in 1992 do not support the popular belief among the regularly scammed that Perot cost Bush the Elder his monar...oops, presidency. He was still smarting over being forced to go pro-life by Ronaldus Maximus as a condition of the VP nomination and, from his love of a "New World Order" to his acceptance of the notion that the "peace dividend" could be enjoyed at the expense of the Pentagon to his Americans with Disabilities Act, to his general mushball elitist foreign policy, to naming Swish Souter to SCOTUS, Bush the Elder reaped what he sowed.

Bush the Elder's fate was sealed when he kept insisting that Peggy Noonan write his 1988 convention acceptance speech when she repeatedly refused. When the stalking continued, Bush the Elder accepted her terms that the speech be given exactly, word-for-word, as she would write it. Knowing what Bush the Elder was, she included the language: "Read my lips, no new taxes." When Bush the Elder spoke those words, he was finished. As George Will described him in 1980, he was nothing but a little lap dog and his voice was a small, tinny arf.

Whatever Dubya did that was positive, he did not do very much to "correct or overcome" the National Security damage of the Clinton era.

As to your other inane post, this is your way of saying (without saying so explicitly) that you like the election of Mark Nancyboy Kirk to the US Senate over his Demonratic hack counterpart as though it somehow would make a difference. I so look forward to Nancyboy breaking your gullible little heart and mind. There is no such thing as a "fiscal conservative," one is either a conservative across the board, a social conservative (including military, guns and other issues) or an undependable phony like Nancyboy and his sycophants.

Once again, if the choice is between an unsuccessful insistence on extending all but one of Dubya's tax cuts (marriage penalty elimination, estate tax elimination, and all tax cuts but the very highest bracket tax cut on income over $250,000 per year and much, much more) and a successful passage of all but the upper crust income tax cut on income over $250,000 per year, then I favor tax cuts over making everyone suffer for the usual group of spoiled folks at the top who have already reaped the overwhelming benefit of the Reagan tax cuts and will benefit far more from the estate tax elimination than from some petty 4.5% tax cut on the megabucks portion of current income.

To put flesh on the bones of this argument, I give you the case of the New York Yankee baseball team and the Steinbrenner family's ownership (previously the ownership of the recently deceased patriarch George M. Steinbrenner). When a limited partnership of which GMS was general partner acquired the Yankees from Columbia Broadcasting System (which had run the franchise into the ground), the LLC paid CBS $8 million with an "m" in 1973 or thereabouts. In 1965, CBS had purchased the Yankees for $13 million (showing as sharp an eye for business as CBS had always shown for news under reds like Cronkite and Murrow). Over several decades, George Steinbrenner relentlessly increased the profitability of the franchise, poured a LOT of the increased profits back into player payroll (listen to the collective whine of the Yankee haters), sometimes wisely and sometimes not, but always producing a relatively competitive team and putting the backsides in the seats. Today, the Yankees are worth $1.25 to $1.5 billion with a "b" and are, as GMS used to say, an asset which is to baseball what the Mona Lisa is to artworks. GMS, considerate to the end, laid down his mortal life in July of this year and thereby spared his heirs (and Yankee fans) the anguish of nearly $700 million in 55% estate taxes which were temporarily ended by the Bush tax cuts. To pay those taxes would have required the Steinbrenner clan to sell the team and probably trigger a downward spiral in team fortunes by a new ownership of bean counters trying to improve the bottom line (in futility) by not spending as much on players. If you were the Steinbrenners (or a Yankee fan) would you prefer that (1) the Steinbrenners pay an extra 4.5% per year on their income over $250,000 per year AND the estate tax of nearly $700 million right now (forcing the sale of the club to short-sighted relatively cheapskate imbeciles) or (2) get the sure thing of paying the extra 4.5% on that upper tax bracket, year by year, but no estate tax at all, or (3) hold out for both the income tax cuts and the estate tax elimination.

If (3) works out, great, but it is no guarantee nor even yet likely. If (3) does not work out, then (2) is far preferable to (1). When you achieve what the Steinbrenner family has achieved in capital appreciation of an asset from $8 million to $1.25 to $1.5 billion, get back to us.

Of course, we are no more likely to see that than we are to see the non-existent resume of your "conservative" "achievements." Still waiting..... No resume is your concession that there is nothing to report.

155 posted on 11/23/2010 11:34:21 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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I was a Reagan state chairman in a New England state when he challenged Feckless Ford, served as state chairman of Young Americans for Freedom (4th largest YAF state organization in the country), Young Republicans and College Republicans, was nominated at 27 years of age for Congress, helped lead two fights against imposition of a state income tax (the first one successful in postponing the question for 20 years), been an attorney for what was called Operation Rescue and for arrested members of the NRA, among other things. If conservatives have a candidate, I do as well, but it is a bit early to be putting all eggs in one basket. I don't object to Sara Palin but even she has not yet decided to run (assuming she is the candidate whom you reference). Mrs. Palin has work to do if she is going to run. She did very well this year and should continue to do so and she should add a circle of advisers who reflect her views and bring their expertise to the table. That is not a criticism of Mrs. Palin but advice that would apply to any candidate serious about running.

If you support Mrs. Palin, you should seek for her the support of those who keep their options open but have no objection to her. Why alienate them? Her possibilities will survive without each and every conservative swearing fealty to her right now.

156 posted on 11/23/2010 11:51:27 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: arrogantsob
A non-negotiable standard is that a person be pro-life. Barbara Bush is not pro-life, nor Laura Bush, nor Dubya's daughters, nor despicable Nancyboy, nor Alan Simpson, nor Mike Castle, nor Obamao, nor anything named Clinton. If we simply must choose among pro-aborts, let the Demonrats earn the title as the pro-abort party and let support for the mass slaughter of innocent infants be the third rail of GOP primary politics. When you vote for the likes of Nancyboy Kirk, you ARE voting Demonrat albeit in GOP drag.

Of course, you are offended because pro-lifers HAVE standards. That is understood.

Resume???? Of course not!

157 posted on 11/23/2010 11:58:10 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: American Dream 246

No, Barbara Bush should not shut up. For God’s sake, we have a First Amendment right to speak our minds in this country. Conservatives had better start living up to their rhetoric. Are we going to back up and live by our Constitution or not? Are some of you so insecure in your beliefs and candidates that you cannot handle an honest debate in an open forum? Or are some of you demanding your own version of “political correctness”? Buck up, for crying out loud!!!


158 posted on 11/23/2010 11:58:38 AM PST by upsdriver
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To: BlackElk
If you support Mrs. Palin, you should seek for her the support of those who keep their options open but have no objection to her. Why alienate them? Her possibilities will survive without each and every conservative swearing fealty to her right now.

I agree wholeheartedly! You can't build some one up by tearing others down. I fully support Palin and hope to work to help her get the nomination. I am sick of this mob mentality of those just waiting to pounce on someone who disagrees with them. They are doing Sarah a severe disservice.

159 posted on 11/23/2010 12:05:29 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: upsdriver
No, Barbara Bush should not shut up. For God’s sake, we have a First Amendment right to speak our minds in this country.

Good point. And we should also respect the First Amendment rights of those who rightly point out the Barbara Bush is the wife and mother of a whole gaggle of turkeys who have worked to undermine the USA and its taxpaying citizens at every turn for more than 22 years. Anti-American, Free Traitor, open borders, self-anointed elitist, scumbags, each and every one.

The Bushes didn't like Ronald Reagan, they don't like the USA or its people, they don't appreciate the concept of American exceptionalism, they don't like the concept of a government of, for, and by the People, and they don't like the idea of ordinary Americans getting involved in primary politics and promoting conservative candidates for the general elections.

Bush I took a Reagan revolution, and its landslide elections, and turned it into a one-term RINO disaster, giving us eight years of Bill Clinton. But what about Perot, you will most likely say. Perot would not likely have made any move if GHWB was not already working to sell out America to foreign countries, mostly our enemies.

Bush II barely beat the commie Al Gore, and then barely beat the commie John F'n Kerry, and then gave the country to Barak Obama.

Had these elitist losers gone away and retired in silence, no one would be pointing out what a disaster their whole family has been for the whole USA and its citizens. Compared to Obama, their legacy would have been entirely ignored. They chose to re-inject themselves into the current discussion, and in such a way as puts them in a most anti-American light.

They have to step out and slam the only pro-American conservative leader, and the person with the boldest, most sensible voice on the political stage for the past two years.

160 posted on 11/23/2010 12:32:17 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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