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To: TXnMA

Every time I look up at the sky and see contrails, they’re quite long, but they never break up like what happened in the video. I would also suppose that depending on the type of aircraft it is, and visibility, that it’s sometimes possible to see the little split between the two engines.

They’re also not staggered due to no attitude or course correction.

That’s absolutely a rocket contrail because how it was made shows rapid course correction that could occur at high speed, with stabilizing fins.


2 posted on 11/19/2010 10:19:18 AM PST by wastedyears (The only good unemployment statistic in America is the number of unemployed Dem officials.)
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To: wastedyears

It DOES break into two from the two engines.


4 posted on 11/19/2010 10:24:49 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: wastedyears
No it doesn't. You actually have the plane crossing one airmass to another at high altitude and that jogs the contrail due to different wind speed.

The plane we are looking at has THREE ENGINES, not two or four, and the KNOWN characteristic of that model's contrails is they "swirl" together.

You can also see clearly that in part of the trip the contrail breaks into a large segment (for 2 engines) and a smaller segment (for 2 engine) ~ probably as the pilot throttles back to reduce power to descend into his glidepath into the airport ahead.

Worth noting you cannot see the ocean in the video ~ it's totally in shadow. The contrail actually originates OVER THE HORIZON. The plane is coming toward you. The Sun shines off the bottom. The contrail is lit from beneath (not behind since the Sun is over the horizon).

The proposal here is that CBS editors titillated your interest through clever, but deceitful, editing. I think the evidence is there that they successfully misrepresented what was seen and when.

Besides, if this were a missile launch it'd been nearly 1 mile in at the base on launch ~ and we don't have any 1 mile wide missiles (not yet anyway, but when we get 'em I think you'll know about it).

6 posted on 11/19/2010 10:29:26 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: wastedyears
Atmospheric conditions vary greatly. The Wilson cloud chamber effect is an example where a nearly saturated, or even super saturated gaseous medium will show extreme condensation effects with even the slightest disturbance - such as an alpha particle.

A large jet creates a HUGE disturbance, both by the engine exhaust and the low pressure areas of the lifting surfaces.

We've all seen air show photos of low pressure induced condensation surrounding performance aircraft in high g manuvers. A landing or taking off jumbo jet with flaps down could create exactly such a contrail if the atmosphere were really highly almost totally saturated with water vapor.

In other words, global warming...

9 posted on 11/19/2010 10:32:59 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: wastedyears
Every time I look up at the sky and see contrails, they’re quite long, but they never break up like what happened in the video.

It took me about two seconds to find this:

And this:


14 posted on 11/19/2010 10:55:10 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: wastedyears

“That’s absolutely a rocket contrail because how it was made shows rapid course correction that could occur at high speed, with stabilizing fins.”

You are now qualified to be an Air Force General. Congratulations.


58 posted on 11/19/2010 1:00:26 PM PST by RFEngineer
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