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New FDA Powers: The Wrong Remedy for a Phony Crisis (Food Bill)
heritage foundation ^ | November 17, 2010 | Diane Katz

Posted on 11/17/2010 5:49:35 PM PST by cornelis

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To: Uncle Ike
Thanks. Good article. The legislation is vague: "Neither specified nor even alluded to is the empowering language of what 'assist' or 'hazard analysis' or 'small entities' may mean.

And "owner, operator, or agent incharge of a facility" who will be subject to sudden regulations covers anyone growing produce.

21 posted on 11/17/2010 6:44:47 PM PST by cornelis
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They are in fact not vague at this point: ", each person (excluding farms and restaurants) who manufactures, processes, packs, distributes, receives, holds, or imports such article can be acted upon by the FDA." link
22 posted on 11/17/2010 6:46:38 PM PST by cornelis
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To: cornelis

I think this bill includes NAIS (Nat’l Animal ID System). Every animal (chickens too) to get tagged. A year ago there were lots of articles from Mid-Western farmers about this — and the problems.

Includes all seeds (what about all the Heritage seeds people have?). Seeds from Monsanto & other giant companies only.

For some crops (flax?) farmers routinely get their own seeds but that would be disallowed by excessive rules and equipment needed to do it.

From EU/Aussies where some of the UN rules have been imposed are descriptions of all vegetation being stripped from streams near agri-industrial fields for “food safety.” Keeps wild animals and birds out. (So much for the efficacy of “bio-diversity” keeping the stream clean naturally.)

Back yard gardens are potentially subject to registration requiring the grower to record seeds, soil, fertilizer, storage and pay for inspections. Sharing of food prohibited. It is possible that organic produce would be disallowed.

Something never mentioned in this regard is how the case about the wheat grower (in the 30’s) was regulated by interstate commerce clause when he grew the wheat for his own use. (Regulation imposed because by growing his own wheat he was not buying from anyone else and therefore his actions were affecting interstate commerce.)

All I can think of when I read this bill is Russia and the Kulaks. You are not allowed to take care of yourself.

Also reminds of something read written during English Civil War that goes something like: what good is freedom if you have no land to sustain yourself.


23 posted on 11/17/2010 6:57:02 PM PST by Bhoy
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To: cornelis; All
Face it people, the problem, is all these laws. 99% of laws Congress has passed are socialism,unconstitutional AND damage freedom and the economy.

The solution is to have a Constitutional amendment that will:

1. Make ALL laws expire after 3 years. The problem is once these socialist laws are passed then they are forever, forever mandating increasing spending, increasing government growth, increasing government control etc.

This way only a few laws (programs) which are what people really want will be kept going.

And this must apply to all laws passed since the constitution was ratified. So all previous laws passed will be given 3 years to expire.

2. Documentation on each law about to be voted on must be mailed out to each American.

24 posted on 11/17/2010 7:11:19 PM PST by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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bump and self ping

Reminder to post that Doreen Hannes will be a guest on Gulag Night, tomorrow and to post a link.


25 posted on 11/17/2010 7:13:57 PM PST by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... um... art. | WE ARE GULAG BOUND)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; ..

This has to be stopped. It could be as destructive as ObamaCare.


26 posted on 11/17/2010 7:15:31 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Bhoy
All I can think of when I read this bill is Russia and the Kulaks.

Back to the phones FWIW.

27 posted on 11/17/2010 7:16:36 PM PST by cornelis
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To: Democrat_media

There is a type of law called Sunset Legislation, which subjects laws to renewal every few years.


28 posted on 11/17/2010 7:17:12 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

” There is a type of law called Sunset Legislation, “

Yah - how’s that workin’ out fer ya, in the case of the ‘Bush Tax Cuts’??


29 posted on 11/17/2010 7:30:35 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: cornelis
where...

Where will we draw the line?

When will we say enough??

What will finally provoke spontaneous direction action???

30 posted on 11/17/2010 7:41:24 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: The Comedian

Sounds like you’ll be using those two muscles!

I don’t blame you. I feel the same way.


31 posted on 11/17/2010 7:43:01 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation ("This is our moment, this is our movement, this is our morning in America!" Sarah Palin)
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To: cornelis
So, thank you for this, professor.

Looking forward to Thursday evening at the Gulag, speaking with Doreen Hannes on the subject, after and along with Trevor Loudon on how George Soros fits into the bigger strategic picture.

Links for Doreen included here:

http://gulagbound.com/8909/gulag-night-trevor-loudon-on-george-soros-thursday-10pm-m-et

32 posted on 11/17/2010 10:21:04 PM PST by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... um... art. | WE ARE GULAG BOUND)
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To: cornelis

You got the names right, but you are missing the significance... It was not a ‘committee’ vote.

The best chance to kill the horrible FOOD NAZI bill was at the full-senate cloture vote.

THAT was when it needed 60 votes to pass.

So it essentially passed TODAY, and these traitors are responsible!

Yea TN Alexander, Lamar [R]
Yea WY Barrasso, John [R]
Yea MA Brown, Scott [R]
Yea NC Burr, Richard [R]
Yea ME Collins, Susan [R]
Yea TN Corker, Bob [R]
Yea WY Enzi, Michael [R]
Yea IA Grassley, Charles [R]
Yea NH Gregg, Judd [R]
Yea NE Johanns, Mike [R]
Yea FL LeMieux, George [R]
Yea IN Lugar, Richard [R]
Yea ME Snowe, Olympia [R]
Yea SD Thune, John [R]
Yea LA Vitter, David [R]
Yea OH Voinovich, George [R]

Tomorrow, it only needs a simple 50-vote plus Joe Biden rubber stamp, which is almost certain to happen.


33 posted on 11/17/2010 11:33:16 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: cornelis

Memo to feds: Get out of our lives!


34 posted on 11/18/2010 3:59:04 AM PST by hershey
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
Thanks cornelis.
the bill grants the FDA unilateral authority to order recalls

35 posted on 11/18/2010 4:22:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Thanks. I haven’t been following this. November 2 is about 10 years ago.


36 posted on 11/18/2010 5:42:58 AM PST by cornelis
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37 posted on 11/18/2010 7:47:32 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: cornelis

Toll-Free number to the Congressional Switchboard

(866) 338-1015


38 posted on 11/18/2010 7:58:09 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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All my state’s reps voted no on the house version. The senators votes yes.


39 posted on 11/18/2010 8:54:16 AM PST by cornelis
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To: The Comedian

Good for you! Agreed! Enough is enough!


40 posted on 11/18/2010 9:02:30 AM PST by ColdOne (Repeal Healthcare......NO COMPROMISE.......ever!)
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