Posted on 11/17/2010 11:22:37 AM PST by Mike Evers
Refusal to submit...
We are so screwed.
(but, I think the word Islam means submission)
“He said refusal to submit to federal authority.”
What is that about? I have neve heard of this before. Any legal beagles care to enlighten me on this one?
Not all airports have the scanners—yet. Could be helpful when trip planning to know which do.
In CA, Palm Springs International doesn’t have them yet.
TSA = Gestapo, and it is useless to appeal to reason or the Constitution when dealing with arrogant, fascists pigs. Americans will pay the price of PC stupidity for as long as they are willing to tolerate it.
The bitter thing here is that we are going to be the tools Obama uses to instigate the disruptions that lead to the destruction of our country.
The plan is for the ruling class to ensure that the proletariat can’t afford to fly and the bourgeoisie refuses to fly.
When that happens, the ruling class will remove the search/scan rules and fly at their leisure.
The rest of the country will be one step closer to anarchy.
Obama wins.
Ok, so get this... a few years ago flying home from Maui.
Several local UTES are in the airport, and screaming profanities as people walk by. Deranged, like they were on drugs. Eventually, I look over at these three bozos, and say “watch your language”.
Ok, so then they threaten to kill me and my family, have several witnesses.
Me and another guy go and ask for security. TSA and the local cops seem to care less, and because they are minority UTES, I’m supposed to “understand” the local culture...
Well, plane boards, and guess who is getting on my plane? Yes, the three local minority UTES, carrying their martial arts trophies, and have a mom/dad in tow as well.
I tell the stewardess about what’s up. When one of the UTES starts staring me down, making hostile gestures, the Captain of the plane has them all booted off the plane.
The TSA and security did NOTHING. Thankfully the Cptn had some common sense, but then again, he wasn’t a gubmint employee...
A little sweet justice? That week, a second carrier in Hawaii had gong bankrupt, and plane seats were going for thousands of dollars one way to get off the island. So, I’m assuming the UTES had some time to think about how stupid they were!
This “submit or arrest” thing is an unbelievable abuse of power. What about “submit or leave the premises”? I have been in courthouses and have witnessed entrants told quite simply that if they wish to enter they have to pass through a metal detector. If they don’t wish to pass through it, they turn around and leave. I’ve seen that happen.
The “submit or arrest” thing is like a fly into a spider’s web. As soon as you enter the building, your freedoms, liberties and dignity are forfeit? You cannot gather your belongings and decide NOT to proceed? Appalling!
Do you know any lawyers? You should have said “you will not touch me without my lawyer being present.”
Then called a lawyer.
I expect trouble.
Maybe this applies to your situation: Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
You assume you'll find a lawyer to handle your case... and that you'd win.
If it was that simple there would already be cases pending.
That’s it. Accuse them of taking stuff from your bag.
SUE THE BUMS
What next? His hand up your bum cause' he says so?
These people are freaks!
IANL but it would seem to me that your attempt at asserting your Constitutional rights was NOT probable cause for their detaining you. I know there is a difference between detaining and arresting but doesn't that come perilously close to an illegal detention, their refusal to let you walk away?
Someone said to me today, the TSA has a job to do.
I replied, so did the gestapo. ;>)
Profiling is the answer! Whenever we decide to be adults about NS.
I am getting tempted to buy a motherhuggin’ ticket, and MAKE them arrest me for refusing the Happy Ending Security Stop.
TSA 1, Mike Evers 0.
I think it is going to take more folks like you steadfastly refusing. Let them arrest you. Then, we can expose them for what they are and what they’re doing.
Also, have you contacted Delta? The airlines are being silent on this, yet it is likely to hit them on their bottom line. They need to know how their “valued customers” are being treated.
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