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To: mbravo37

There is evidence supporting that he isn’t a natural born citizen. Besides the dual-citizenship issue which wide out in the open, there is also the HDOH’s indirect confirmation (in 2 different ways through official communications) that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery, including their statutory admission that Obama’s BC is amended, which means that any genuine BC (included the abbreviated BC, or COLB)the HDOH prints out for him needs to be marked as “ALTERED”. Every COLB contains a note in caps at the bottom saying that any alteration invalidates the certificate.

So Obama does not have a LEGALLY VALID birth certificate in Hawaii. Check all the statements from Fukino and Okubo and you will see that they never said that the BC they have is legally valid. By law they are required to show the BC now that Fukino has made an announcement saying what’s on it, but they refuse to do so - presumably because showing the BC would allow people to see that the BC they keep talking about is actually not even legally valid.

There are other valid reasons for Lakin to disobey orders, even if Obama IS a natural born citizen - most particularly because Obama was never lawfully declared to be the winner of the electoral vote (since Cheney never asked for objections as required by law), which is a prerequisite for the person even BEING the “president elect”. And once a person is “president elect” they still have to QUALIFY before January 20th, or else the vice president elect is the one the Constitution requires to “act as President”.

Furthermore, to even get Obama’s name on the state ballots the DNC had to certify that he was their duly chosen candidate. DNC bylaws require the candidate to be Constitutionally eligible, but the HDOH has confirmed that nobody from the DNC or the Hawaii Democratic Party even asked to see Obama’s birth certificate or to have his birth facts verified. And the HDP refused to certify that Obama is Constitutionally eligible. In fact, in their haste to get rid of the Constitutionally-eligible language they took out a whole line of print from their standard form, including the only statement that HI law required them to make (the statement that Obama is the candidate of specifically the HDP). Yet in spite of not having done any checking herself and the HDP’s refusal to certify eligibility, Pelosi signed a certification of nomination swearing to something she not only didn’t know but also had good reason to believe was not true.

So basically every step in this process broke the laws:

1) Pelosi signing the Certificate of Nomination to get Obama on the ballots in the first place was perjury.

2)Obama and all his enablers posting a forged COLB is forgery, a violation of the Federal General False Statement Act, perjury, misprision of felony, etc.

3) The HDOH statements hiding the fact that their BC for Obama is not legally valid is a violation of the Federal General False Statement Act.

4) The statute governing how the electoral votes were to be counted was violated because Cheney did not ask for objections, as required by law. So there was never a lawfully-declared winner of the electoral vote.

5) There was thus no president elect, and even if Obama had been declared the electoral winner he still could not have “qualified” by Jan 20th as required by the 20th Amendment because even his legal age cannot be determined using a non-valid Hawaiian BC. The only way his qualifications could be legally determined is if he submitted a legally-valid BC (such as the one he had been using his entire life, most probably from Kenya) or if the altered BC that he has in Hawaii was submitted as proof and a judicial or administrative person or body determined that it was probative. But Obama spent lots of taxpayer money to make sure that no judge ever saw his Hawaii BC, even though that is the only way that the Hawaii BC could ever be more than the legal equivalent of Monopoly money.

6) Even if these other steps had been taken, US law requires anybody receiving a federal paycheck to submit documents to prove their citizenship status. This was never done for Obama to receive a paycheck as alleged POTUS because it was assumed that somebody else had already checked that (even though there were multiple lawsuits because nobody HAD ever checked it).

So there is evidence that Obama is not a natural born US citizen. And it is known that the required processes were never fulfilled, in any of the steps that are required for a person to become the president. We still don’t have anybody who has been LAWFULLY declared the winner of the electoral vote.

Those are very good reasons for Lakin or anybody else to disobey orders from Obama, since it is known that the Constitutional process for choosing and installing a POTUS was never followed, and the elements of Article 92 say straight-out that orders are not lawful if they are “contrary to the Constitution”.


12 posted on 11/15/2010 10:13:40 PM PST by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion; mbravo37
And once a person is “president elect” they still have to QUALIFY before January 20th, or else the vice president elect is the one the Constitution requires to “act as President”.

Has anyone ever seen Biden, prior to January 20, 2009, appearing behind a seal of the "Office of the Vice President Elect"?

13 posted on 11/15/2010 10:20:12 PM PST by thecodont
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To: butterdezillion

Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino has made a statement declaring she had seen the original vital records verifying that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii. Also the state law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest. There have been many lawsuits against the claim that Obama was born in Hawaii but all of them were unsuccessful. The US house of representatives unanimously passed a bill which had a passage stating that Obama was born in Hawaii. If the courts and our legislative body have all declared and accepted that Obama is in fact a US citizen and was in fact born in Hawaii how is this even an issue anymore. According the the constitution the legislative branch is responsible for making laws and bills while the judicial branch is responsible for interpreting and deciding the constitutionality of government and their laws. Both branches have agreed on this topic and acted accordingly so according to the constitution President Obama’s US natural born citizenship status has been decided and declared. It was Lakin’s responsibilty and duty to follow what Obama’s orders were.


24 posted on 11/18/2010 2:31:41 PM PST by mbravo37
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