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Talk about fascist.
I am surprised no one has mentioned the rest of the story.

On the way OUT of the airport, after his airfare had been refunded, some other federal agent comes up to this guy and says . . .
HE HAS TO GO BACK TO THE SECURITY AREA AND COMPLETE THE BODY SCAN OR ELSE BE FINED UP TO $10,000.

Did anyone know that once a body scan or grope is initiated you have no right to go back home without being threatened with a fine ?

TSA promises $10,000 fine for refusing sexual assault

November 14th, 2010

By Rady Ananda

At the San Diego International Airport yesterday, about one-fifth of the travelers were selected for sexual assault by transportation security agents. Though TSA’s website did not list SAN as one of the airports employing the carcinogenic naked scan or a full body rub down, one man was told his refusal to submit would result in a civil law suit and a $10,000 fine. Under 49 CFR Sec.s 1540.105 and 1540.107, as summarized in these 2004 TSA Sanction Guidelines, apparently TSA has Congressional support to fine people for refusing to submit to molestation.

John Tyner posted his video of the incident and described in detail the experience. At about 3:50 into the first video, Tyner tells TSA agents:

“If you touch my junk, I’m gonna have you arrested.”

“Upon buying your ticket, you gave up a lot of your rights,” said one TSA agent (~8:34).

“The government took them away after 9/11,” he countered.

Several years ago, a woman had a cake server from her wedding reception in her carry on baggage. The TSA made a fuss, but allowed her to keep it.

Some time later, she received a fine in the mail from the TSA. I think the fine was $2,500 or thereabouts.

Also, you’re not allowed to withdraw from the screening process once you start. Fascist, like you said.

I am surprised no one has mentioned the rest of the story. On the way OUT of the airport, after his airfare had been refunded, some other federal agent comes up to this guy and says . . .

HE HAS TO GO BACK TO THE SECURITY AREA AND COMPLETE THE BODY SCAN OR ELSE BE FINED UP TO $10,000.

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Yes, this is very disturbing. What it means is that once you start the sceening process, you are their prisoner and you can't leave. So let's say you consent to go through the scanner and it doesn't show a good enough image, they may send you to be patted down and you can't refuse. You can't change you mind and leave the area.

They allowed this brave man to leave the area and then they changed their mind and went after him and tried to force him to complete the scanning, since he had started it.

The rationale being that a real terrorist could try to get through with a real bomb, refuse to consent to a pat down, leave the airport and try again another day.

This is why we need to profile based on behavior, appearance, ethnicity, religion, country of origin, type of payment (i.e. cash), prior flying history, profession, etc.