They just want to stay in business. THe insidiouus effect of the Death Care bill is that many Republican supporting companes will have to apply for waivers, comverting them to the dem cause. Thats how fascism works.

We should be making a huge public stink about it!!!

We need to boycott the government for even doing this. Companies will take what the government gives them.

Get off your anti-corporate high horse.

What this affair reveals is:

1. It's an admission that even the feds recognize that the actual application of Obamacare isn't practical -- or even feasible.

2. If you're big enough to have legal/lobby representation in Washington -- or otherwise know how the system works -- you can get a waiver. Note that some of employee counts were quite small.

It's not some kind of plot against small business. Anybody can get relief, evidently, but you have to know how to navigate the system. That's not a reflection on big business -- it's a statement about the perversity of big government.

PING!!

“Get off your anti-corporate high horse.”

Where did you get that from my statement? I simply was stating to go after the White House, where the problem orginated. Don’t handle the problem to try and fix it......get rid of it.

Companies will take what the government gives them.

Apologize if I mistook. But I thought I detected some resentment in the above quote.

It’ll take a good bit of research to figure out ALL the places you might want to boycott. For instance, #26 on the list, “Darden Restaurants” (with 34,000 enrollees), is a conglomerate which owns the following ‘casual dining’ restaurant chains:

Red Lobster
Olive Garden
Longhorn Steakhouse
The Capital Grille
Bahama Breeze
Seasons 52

Thanks for that list (wondered why no one had posted it).

See related thread and my questions in post #49

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2626960/posts

How does this NOT violate equal protection?

We are a government of men, not laws. That whole “equal protection” thing isn’t needed anymore. Didn’t you get the memo?

I agree with you. But we should be making a stink about this. This is how liberal fascism works, ingratiating those who wish to stay in business.

It makes free people run to Big Brother for help, instead of establishing free competition. The favored get to survive.Gradually monopo;ies are established.

I hate this government and its insidious attacks on freedom.

#91 on the list, 'UFT Welfare Fund' with 351,000 enrollees, is the United Federation of Teachers' health care plan.

The Republicans better take a chainsaw to the Federal Gov’t, starting with this monstrosity.

More corruption and dirty tricks thanks to this Regime.

By the way, the 1,175,411 “Total” enrollees noted at the bottom of the list does not include the enrollees from a company called ‘Reliance Standard’ (a health insurance group of some kind), which lists its number of enrollees as “varies”.

The actual number of ‘enrollees’ affected by the exemptions is probably significantly more than 1,175,411.

BOYCOTT THEM !!!

http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/approved_applications_for_waiver.html

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Approved Applications for Waiver of the Annual Limits Requirements of the PHS Act Section 2711 as of November 1, 2010

*All Applicants Listed have had 1 or more plans/policies approved

Applications for waivers from annual limit requirements are reviewed on a case by case basis by Department officials who look at a series of factors including whether or not a premium increase is large or if a significant number of enrollees would lose access to their current plan because the coverage would not be offered in the absence of a waiver. More detailed information on specific criteria can be found at: http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/11-05-2010annual_limits_waiver_bulletin.pdf. Approved applicants are granted an annual limit waiver for one year. The Office of Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight’s sub-regulatory guidance on the process for obtaining waivers of the annual limits requirements may be found at: http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/patient/ociio_2010-1_20100903_508.pdf

	Applicant	Application Received	Plan Effective Date	Number of Enrollees	Application Completed by Applicant	Waiver Approved
1	Protocol Marketing Group	10/4/2010	1/1/2011	454	10/25/2010	11/1/2010
2	Sasnak	9/29/2010	1/1/2011	813	9/29/2010	11/1/2010
3	Star Tek	10/1/2010	1/1/2011	1,423	10/26/2010	11/1/2010
4	Adventist Care Centers	10/1/2010	1/1/2011	725	10/26/2010	10/29/2010
5	B.E.S.T of NY	10/7/2010	1/1/2011	1,200	10/27/2010	10/29/2010
6	Boskovich Farms, Inc	10/8/2010	1/1/2011	165	10/28/2010	10/29/2010
7	Gallegos Corp	9/29/2010	1/1/2011	86	10/28/2010	10/29/2010
8	Jeffords Steel and Engineering	10/4/2010	1/1/2011	112	10/28/2010	10/29/2010
9	O.K. Industries	10/4/2010	1/1/2011	1,238	10/28/2010	10/29/2010
10	Service Employees Benefit Fund	10/12/2010	11/1/2010	1,297	10/29/2010	10/29/2010
11	Sun Pacific Farming Coop	10/6/2010	12/1/2010	1,109	10/6/2010	10/29/2010
12	UFCW Allied Trade Health & Welfare Trust	10/5/2010	1-Dec	68	10/25/2010	10/29/2010
13	HCR Manor Care	10/5/2010	1/1/2011	2,666	10/26/2010	10/28/2010
14	IBEW No.915	9/28/2010	1/1/2011	930	10/15/2010	10/28/2010
15	Integra BMS for Culp, Inc.	10/4/2010	1/1/2011	34	10/25/2010	10/28/2010
16	New England Health Care	9/27/2010	1/1/2011	7,454	10/26/2010	10/28/2010
17	Aegis Insurance	10/6/2010	11/1/2010	67	10/25/2010	10/26/2010
18	Alliance One Tobacco	9/30/2010	1/1/2011	138	10/21/2010	10/26/2010
19	Asbestos Workers Local 53 Welfare Fund	9/29/2010	1/1/2011	2	10/21/2010	10/26/2010
20	Assurant Health (2nd Application)	9/29/2010	1/1/2011	19,024	10/21/2010	10/26/2010
21	Captain Elliot's Party Boats	10/12/2010	11/1/2010	10	10/25/2010	10/26/2010
22	Carlson Restaurants	9/22/2010	1/1/2011	3,381	10/21/2010	10/26/2010
23	CH Guenther & Son	9/24/2010	1/1/2011	300	10/21/2010	10/26/2010
24	CKM Industries dba Miller Environmental	10/5/2010	11/1/2010	34	10/25/2010	10/26/2010
25	CWVEBA	10/14/2010	10/1/2010	4,500	10/18/2010	10/26/2010
26	Darden Restaurants	9/30/2010	1/1/2011	34,000	10/21/2010	10/26/2010
27	Duarte Nursery	9/23/2010	1/1/2011	283	10/19/2010	10/26/2010
28	Employees Security Fund	9/29/2010	1/1/2011	22	9/29/2010	10/26/2010
29	Florida Trowel Trades	9/27/2010	1/1/2011	297	10/21/2010	10/26/2010
30	Ingles Markets	9/30/2010	1/1/2011	917	10/25/2010	10/26/2010
31	Meijer	10/1/2010	1/1/2011	4,873	10/1/2010	10/26/2010
32	O'Reilly Auto Parts	9/23/2010	1/1/2011	9,722	9/23/2010	10/26/2010
33	Plumbers & Pipefitters Local 123 Welfare Fund	9/30/2010	1/1/2011	534	10/21/2010	10/26/2010
34	Sun Belt	9/28/2010	10/1/2010	114	10/20/2010	10/26/2010
35	UFCW Local 227	10/12/2010	11/1/2010	1,125	10/12/2010	10/26/2010
36	Uncle Julio's	9/30/2010	11/1/2010	115	10/25/2010	10/26/2010
37	United Group	9/24/2010	1/1/2011	177	10/19/2010	10/26/2010
38	US Imaging	10/11/2010	11/1/2010	148	10/25/2010	10/26/2010
39	Vino Farms	10/8/2010	11/1/2010	152	10/21/2010	10/26/2010
40	Advanta	9/20/2010	9/1/2011	52	9/20/2010	10/21/2010
41	Agricare	9/23/2010	11/1/2010	437	9/23/2010	10/21/2010
42	Alaska Seafood	9/23/2010	1/1/2010	262	10/15/2010	10/21/2010
43	American Fidelity	9/22/2010	10/23/2010	9,358	10/14/2010	10/21/2010
44	Convergys	9/20/2010	1/1/2011	1,400	9/20/2010	10/21/2010
45	Darensberries	9/28/2010	10/1/2010	1,450	9/28/2010	10/21/2010
46	Gowan Company	9/23/2010	1/1/2011	225	9/27/2010	10/21/2010
47	Greystar	9/23/2010	1/1/2011	1,747	10/13/2010	10/21/2010
48	Macayo Restaurants	9/22/2010	12/1/2010	46	10/18/2010	10/21/2010
49	Periodical Services	9/27/2010	1/1/2011	464	9/27/2010	10/21/2010
50	UniFirst	9/23/2010	9/1/2011	2,659	10/14/2010	10/21/2010
51	Universal Forest Products	9/23/2011	5/1/2010	1,738	10/19/2010	10/21/2010
52	UFCW Maximus Local 455	10/4/2010	1/1/2011	59	10/18/2010	10/18/2010
53	AHS	9/22/2010	1/1/2011	400	10/12/2010	10/14/2010
54	GuideStone Financial Resources	9/21/2010	1/1/2011	354	9/21/2010	10/14/2010
55	Local 25 SEIU	9/29/2010	10/1/2010	31,000	10/7/2010	10/14/2010
56	MAUSER Corp.	9/21/2010	1/1/2011	47	9/24/2010	10/14/2010
57	Preferred Care, Inc.	9/15/2010	1/1/2011	918	9/15/2010	10/14/2010
58	Ruby Tuesday	10/8/2010	1/1/2011	3,219	10/8/2010	10/14/2010
59	The Dixie Group, Inc.	8/27/2010	6/19/2010	269	10/12/2010	10/14/2010
60	UFCW Local 1262	9/20/2010	10/1/2010	5,390	9/20/2010	10/14/2010
61	Whelan Security Company	9/23/2010	1/1/2011	287	10/12/2010	10/14/2010
62	AMF Bowling Worldwide	9/14/2010	1/1/2011	295	10/7/2010	10/12/2010
63	Assisted Living Concepts	9/17/2010	1/1/2011	1,174	9/17/2010	10/12/2010
64	Case & Associates	9/17/2010	1/1/2011	87	9/17/2010	10/12/2010
65	GPM Investments	9/17/2010	1/1/2011	275	9/17/2010	10/12/2010
66	Grace Living Centers	9/14/2010	10/1/2010	534	9/14/2010	10/12/2010
67	Mountaire	9/17/2010	1/1/2011	2,074	9/17/2010	10/12/2010
68	Swift Spinning	9/16/2010	1/1/2011	240	9/16/2010	10/12/2010
69	Belmont Village	9/10/2010	1/1/2011	785	10/4/2010	10/8/2010
70	Caliber Services	9/13/2010	1/1/2011	606	9/13/2010	10/8/2010
71	Cracker Barrel	9/9/2010	1/1/2011	16,823	9/17/2010	10/8/2010
72	DISH Network	9/13/2010	3/1/2011	3,597	9/23/2010	10/8/2010
73	Groendyke Transport, Inc	9/2/2010	1/1/2011	1,322	9/2/2010	10/8/2010
74	Pocono Medical Center	9/24/2010	1/1/2011	3,298	9/24/2010	10/8/2010
75	Regis Corporation	9/10/2010	3/1/2011	3,617	10/1/2010	10/8/2010
76	The Pictsweet Co.	9/13/2010	1/1/2010	694	9/13/2010	10/8/2010
77	Diversified Interiors	9/28/2010	10/1/2010	300	9/28/2010	10/1/2010
78	Local 802 Musicians Health Fund	9/29/2010	10/1/2010	1,801	9/29/2010	10/1/2010
79	Medical Card System	9/20/2010	10/1/2010	6,635	9/23/2010	10/1/2010
80	The Buccaneer	9/22/2010	10/1/2010	125	9/28/2010	10/1/2010
81	CIGNA	9/17/2010	9/26/2010	265,000	9/30/2010	9/30/2010
82	Greater Metropolitan Hotel	9/16/2010	10/1/2010	1,200	9/24/2010	9/30/2010
83	Local 17 Hospitality Benefit Fund	9/16/2010	10/1/2010	881	9/24/2010	9/30/2010
84	GS-ILA	9/15/2010	10/1/2010	298	9/15/2010	9/28/2010
85	Allied	9/13/2010	10/1/2010	127	9/13/2010	9/27/2010
86	Harden Healthcare	9/9/2010	1/1/2011	874	9/29/2010	9/27/2010
87	Health and Welfare Benefit System	9/16/2010	10/1/2010	41	9/16/2010	9/27/2010
88	Health Connector	9/20/2010	10/1/2010	3,544	9/24/2010	9/27/2010
89	I.U.P.A.T	9/16/2010	10/1/2010	875	9/23/2010	9/27/2010
90	Sanderson Plumbing Products, Inc.	9/22/2010	10/1/2010	326	9/22/2010	9/27/2010
91	Transport Workers	9/20/2010	10/1/2010	107	9/23/2010	9/27/2010
92	UFT Welfare Fund	9/16/2010	10/1/2010	351,000	9/27/2010	9/27/2010
93	Aegis	9/16/2010	10/1/2010	162	9/21/2010	9/24/2010
94	Aetna	9/16/2010	10/1/2010	209,423	9/16/2010	9/24/2010
95	Allflex	9/20/2010	10/1/2010	34	9/22/2010	9/24/2010
96	Baptist Retirement	9/10/2010	10/1/2010	127	9/17/2010	9/24/2010
97	BCS Insurance	9/13/2010	9/24/2010	115,000	9/22/2010	9/24/2010
98	Cryogenic	9/20/2010	10/1/2010	19	9/20/2010	9/24/2010
99	Fowler Packing Co.	9/8/2010	10/1/2010	39	9/17/2010	9/24/2010
100	Guy C. Lee Mfg.	9/15/2010	10/1/2010	312	9/15/2010	9/24/2010
101	HealthPort	9/17/2010	10/1/2010	608	9/17/2010	9/24/2010
102	Jack in the Box	9/17/2010	10/1/2010	1,130	9/21/2010	9/24/2010
103	Maritime Association	9/17/2010	10/1/2010	500	9/21/2010	9/24/2010
104	Maverick County	9/21/2010	10/1/2010	1	9/23/2010	9/24/2010
105	Metro Paving Fund	9/20/2010	10/1/2010	550	9/20/2010	9/24/2010
106	PMPS-ILA	9/19/2010	10/1/2010	15	9/23/2010	9/24/2010
107	PS-ILA	9/19/2010	10/1/2010	8	9/23/2010	9/24/2010
108	QK/DRD (Denny's)	9/16/2010	10/1/2010	65	9/22/2010	9/24/2010
109	Reliance Standard	9/14/2010	10/1/2010	varies	9/14/2010	9/24/2010
110	Tri-Pak	9/20/2010	10/1/2010	26	9/20/2010	9/24/2010
111	UABT	9/17/2010	10/1/2010	17,347	9/17/2010	9/24/2010
	total			1,175,411

Won’t all these waivers make Obamacare a bill of attainder?

It would seem to fit with the original intent or our founders... this is illegal!

Bill of Attainder

Definition: A legislative act that singles out an individual or group for punishment without a trial.

The Constitution of the United States, Article I, Section 9, paragraph 3 provides that: "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law will be passed."

"The Bill of Attainder Clause was intended not as a narrow, technical (and therefore soon to be outmoded) prohibition, but rather as an implementation of the separation of powers, a general safeguard against legislative exercise of the judicial function or more simply - trial by legislature." U.S. v. Brown, 381 U.S. 437, 440 (1965).

"These clauses of the Constitution are not of the broad, general nature of the Due Process Clause, but refer to rather precise legal terms which had a meaning under English law at the time the Constitution was adopted. A bill of attainder was a legislative act that singled out one or more persons and imposed punishment on them, without benefit of trial. Such actions were regarded as odious by the framers of the Constitution because it was the traditional role of a court, judging an individual case, to impose punishment." William H. Rehnquist, The Supreme Court, page 166.

"Bills of attainder, ex post facto laws, and laws impairing the obligations of contracts, are contrary to the first principles of the social compact, and to every principle of sound legislation. ... The sober people of America are weary of the fluctuating policy which has directed the public councils. They have seen with regret and indignation that sudden changes and legislative interferences, in cases affecting personal rights, become jobs in the hands of enterprising and influential speculators, and snares to the more-industrious and less-informed part of the community." James Madison, Federalist Number 44, 1788.

Supreme Court cases construing the Bill of Attainder clause include:

Ex Parte Garland, 4 Wallace 333 (1866).

Cummings v. Missouri, 4 Wallace 277 (1866).

U.S. v. Brown, 381 U.S. 437 (1965).

Nixon v. Administrator of General Services, 433 U.S.425 (1977).

Selective Service Administration v. Minnesota PIRG, 468 U.S. 841 (1984).

I copied the list into a spread sheet and sorted it by number of enrollees.

The six ‘Applicants’ with the largest number of ‘enrollees’ (not including Reliant Standard with their ‘varying’ number of enrollees) are:

UFT Welfare Fund = 351,000
CIGNA = 265,000
Aetna = 209,423
BCS Insurance = 115,000
Darden Restaurants = 34,000
Local 25 SEIU = 31,000

111 Obamacare waivers to US companies, thanks pissant, NormsRevenge, and rockabyebaby.

Everyone call DeMint et al. and demand this be stopped!

Won’t all these waivers make Obamacare a bill of attainder?

In a sane world, one would think so, but from a legal perspective, the concept of the bill of attainder is as dead a letter as ex post facto laws. Courts will twist themselves into shapes only obtainable in orbit rather than declare a law either of these.