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Blogger Believes Webcam Image Solves 'Missile' Mystery
FoxNews.com ^ | 11/10/2010 | Jeremy A. Kaplan & Justin Fishel

Posted on 11/11/2010 8:40:13 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies

A blogger reckons he may have solved the mystery over the vapor trail spotted off the southern coast of California on Monday.

On his blog "Time to Think," Liem Bahneman on Wednesday pinpointed America West Flight 808 as the likely cause -- backing up an explanation offered by a senior military official to Fox News Channel that the contrail caught on video by a news helicopter “was more likely caused by an airplane than anything else."

Bahneman wonders if he is the first to call it: "I did a lot of extrapolation of what flights could be at the right position (off the coast) at the right altitude (for contrail formation) and came down to two possibilities: UPS Flight 902 (UPS902) or America West Flight 808 (AWE808)."

He concluded: "As I was researching tonight (24 hours later), I realized that today's (Tuesday's) AWE808 current position (at around 4:50 p.m.) was almost the same as it was the day of the incident. I quickly pulled up a Newport Beach webcam and found that (apparently) AWE808 was making an identical contrail, 24 hours later!"

Bahneman cited another blog, ContrailScience.com, which lists a wealth of other details about jet airplane contrails. The blogger behind that site agreed with Bahneman, telling FoxNews.com that "the plane is flying directly TOWARD you, so it starts below the horizon. The contrail at the horizon is far away, maybe 50-100 miles behind the plane, and has been spread out by the wind, creating the illusion that it's closer."

The Department of Defense said Wednesday that it was satisfied the event was likely caused by an airplane.

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1 posted on 11/11/2010 8:40:16 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

“A blogger reckons he may have solved the mystery over the vapor trail spotted off the southern coast of California on Monday.”

Swamp gas...and nothing more, quoth the Raven, nevermore...lol


2 posted on 11/11/2010 8:41:57 AM PST by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: choctaw man
I just watched the video again and whatever it is seems to be moving too fast for an airliner.

I think it is a weather balloon caught in a jet stream.;-)

3 posted on 11/11/2010 8:44:21 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama: Briefcase Terrorist, Trojan Horse, Traitor!)
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To: choctaw man

Nah..it’s got to be a conspiracy of some sort..just because.


4 posted on 11/11/2010 8:44:35 AM PST by bkepley
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Drone target missile used to test US defenses.


5 posted on 11/11/2010 8:44:55 AM PST by GBA (Not on our watch!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
What a load of BS.

That was a con trail from the solid rocket fuel of a missile. I have seen many.

6 posted on 11/11/2010 8:48:02 AM PST by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

The blogger in question has since returned to his day job as an analyst for Dan Rather.


7 posted on 11/11/2010 8:57:23 AM PST by bigbob
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To: choctaw man
I have watched nearly every rocket, spacecraft, shuttle and military satellite launches my entire life. A jet engine doesn't have that kind propulsion or contrail. That "burn" gave it away. Sorry. Next explanation?
8 posted on 11/11/2010 9:01:39 AM PST by poobear ("The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Well look at it this way. If everyone thinks it’s just an airplane it kinda wasted a Chinese missile and they didn’t get the fear warning they wanted.

Which is also probably why the Department of Defense went with airplane instead of “holy crap how the hell did China get a sub 35 miles off the coast of California and not one of ours heard it?!”


9 posted on 11/11/2010 9:03:20 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: bigbob
Fake but accurate......?

lol

10 posted on 11/11/2010 9:04:19 AM PST by LasVegasMac (What's up with the towel on the head? - 'Ima Target')
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

It was nothing more than mass hysteria created by the Tea Party Movement.


11 posted on 11/11/2010 9:08:23 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

A Freeper yesterday asked a very telling question. If this was a con trail from a jet aircraft, where are all the other con trails from all the other jets at that time?


12 posted on 11/11/2010 9:08:27 AM PST by The Duke
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To: The Duke; exnavy

Where did the missile come down?


13 posted on 11/11/2010 9:11:16 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

This most certainly was NOT a Chinese missile launch. </S>


14 posted on 11/11/2010 9:13:00 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Standing by the walls of Minas Tirith as Sauron's forces pound the gates...)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

This most certainly was NOT a Chinese missile launch. </S>


15 posted on 11/11/2010 9:13:14 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Standing by the walls of Minas Tirith as Sauron's forces pound the gates...)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Nope...y'all are wrong!! Photobucket
16 posted on 11/11/2010 9:22:55 AM PST by BubbaJunebug
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To: The Duke

There are at least two very large, spread out contrails right in the same frame, perpendicular to the “missile”. The “burn” is a reflection off the aircraft from the red/orange sun. Don’t missile fly faster than what this did? If I understand correctly he had it on video for 10 minutes.


17 posted on 11/11/2010 9:27:44 AM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
backing up an explanation offered by a senior military official to Fox News Channel

Funny I heard an expert on Fox it could NOT be a plane

18 posted on 11/11/2010 9:39:54 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: The Duke

If in fact it was a flight that originated out of Hawaii, coming from that same general direction at that exact time, it is doubtful that there are any other flights. It is not like you are in the continental US and there are flights crisscrossing from hundreds of different points. If another flight was on the exact same track and altitude 10 minutes later, the conditions would more than likely have changed, and the same effect would not be observed.


19 posted on 11/11/2010 9:46:57 AM PST by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Aww, no fun using reason and logic. How can you build a good conspiracy theory that way?


20 posted on 11/11/2010 10:00:09 AM PST by devere
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