Posted on 11/09/2010 6:15:44 PM PST by rxsid
Officially, they were married and divorced, but I believe a lot of people think that this marriage never took place.
As nearly as I can determine, no marriage certificate has ever been found, ....... only that Stanley stated in the divorce petition that they were once married.
Shouldn’t the cert be in the Hawaiian records
and public record?
Yet it cannot be found.
Perhaps to make up a COLB, forged, it was added at that time but it, like the long form birth certificate, CANNOT be found.
Am I correct in this?
Indeed, a good question!
After-all, they do talk about letters. Something in there that would break open the damn?
The legend is that on February 2, 1961, against Madelyn’s hopes, and against the desires of Obama’s father back in Kenya, Ann, three months pregnant, and Obama hopped a plane to Maui and got married. The wedding had no witnesses, not even her parents, and no record of the event has yet been found.
Obama, himself, hints that his father and mothers wedding may not have been properly documented. “How and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I have never quite had the courage to explore. There’s no record of a real wedding, a cake, a ring, a giving away of the bride. No families were in attendance; it’s not even clear that people back in Kansas were informed.” Obama writes in his memoir.
The lack of any documentary evidence, when such evidence for legal marriages that took place in Hawaii during 1961 is readily available today to any inquiring family member, strongly suggests that Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Senior were not ever legally married and that Senior, a married man of 25, almost certainly impregnated the 17-year-old Dunham, since nine months before Obamas birth would be early November 1960, about three to four weeks before Ann Dunhams 18th birthday on November 29, 1960.
And this, Michelle Obama says that Senior and Anna were never married. She described Anna as “very young and very single when she had him (Obama).”
And this — There is no evidence whatsoever that Senior and Anna ever lived together anywhere, any time. The living arrangements between the announcement of the wedding and the birth of the child were uncertain. Most likely, Senior remained in his dorm room while Ann lived with her parents.
Letters written by acquaintances of Senior during the period 1960-1961 with accompanying photographs do not mention or show Anna at all.
Correspondence, writings, reports, bulletins, serial issues, clippings, photographs, sound recordings, video tapes, and motion picture film, relating to American relations with Africa, the political and economic development of Kenya and other African countries, assistance to African students in the United States, and especially to the Kenyan political leader Tom Mboya. Includes correspondence with, writings by, and interviews of, Mboya.
Extent 56 manuscript boxes, 3 oversize boxes, 1 framed poster. (26 linear feet)
RestrictionsFor copyright status, please contact the Hoover Institution Archives.
Availability Box 59 is closed.
The remainder of the collection is open for research
Closed? Why?
The Koran says that the fate of a nation does not change unless the people decide to change it.
Obama addressing Muslims in Indonesia:
“Change will not come if we wait for someone else or another time. It is we who have been waiting for it. We are the change we seek. “
Yes, a Muslim CocoNUT
Mrkd
“If and when an actual 21st Century court of law (at any level of the judiciary from a magistrate court to the Supreme Court of the United States) rules that Vattel has historical constitutional relevance, Ill be won over to your side. Until then...not so much.” jamese777
“E. de Vattel, The Law of Nations, Preliminaries §3 (J. Chitty et al. transl. and ed. 1883) (hereinafter Vattel)”
For two centuries we have affirmed that the domes-tic law of the United States recognizes the law of nations. page 35
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/03pdf/03-339.pdf
Closed to make BhO wonder what they are holding?
RE box 59:
Settin up da sting...Where is Sandy D’Burglar when ya need him?
Many Muslim male students marry American women while having one or more wives "back in the home country". Which the Americans usually only find out about when they accompany hubby home to find out that they are the "junior wife" and pretty much a slave to the other wives. Muslims LIE, it's what they do. It's a part of their religion.
“Methinks the recent tour of the Third World by disaffected former CIA types is bearing its first fruit. “
That thought did cross my mind too. If so, then keep it up.
I have always thought the secret on his birth certificate is the fact that his parents weren’t married and he was listed as illegitimate. Hardly would cause anyone to raise an eyebrow these days but back in the 60’s a young white girl giving birth to an illegitimate biracial baby would have been a scandal.
You are looking at this through with a 2010 perspective. In the 1960’s it would have been a scandal for a young white woman to have am illegitimate biracial baby. In one of his books he tells of finding his BC and IIRC something on it surprised him. I have long said I thought the secret on the BC is that he is listed as illegitimate.
Sure he was dreaming of a father, because he had no clue who it was.
Yeah, it sure seems something was going on then. I wonder if a legal name change upon establishment of paternity would be handled like an adoption, where it’s all private and sealed. The Lt Gov’s office twice told me that they have no legal name change order for Obama.
What makes it so hard is that we have no idea what documents are genuine and what government statements are accurate. There’s the whole mess with Obama/Soebarka (sp?)being adopted by Lolo. Was the Soebarka mention on the passport application for the passport Ann used when she brought Barry to HI?
Could a person be adopted in Indonesia without any record of it being sent back to Hawaii?
If the Obama name wasn’t used for Barry until 1971, then Barry would have had to be using Dunham as the last name in the Hawaii records, if there were any.
So SAD is his sister and her daughter his niece, hmmm???
Hard to comprehend, but with this usurper’s “bio” the un-comprehensible becomes more and more confusing!!!
‘bout as believable as anything else about him, isn’t it?
I fully anticipate in the next few months a sudden resignation, probably "for health reasons" or possibly "the good of the party." It most likely won't clearly be attributable to the eligibility issue but the ruling class needs Obama offstage before the 2012 presidential campaign season gets serious next year.
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