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Pentagon calls mystery missile 'unexplained,' cannot rule out threat
NY Post ^ | 11/09/2010 | NY Post

Posted on 11/09/2010 1:45:41 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

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To: jwparkerjr
For my money that’s simply inexcusable. Has our national defense slipped to the point that a ship capable of firing a missile clearly visible from 35 miles away could get into that area without being detected and identified.

It's been a very long time since "Defense Spending" was exclusively for defending CONUS. How the hell else could a subsonic plane hit the Pentagon with 45 minutes' notice? For the most part we have been protecting "American interests" overseas, OTKA "investors."

61 posted on 11/09/2010 2:10:14 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Palladin
Just ask the more than 150 eyewitnesses who watched the rocket that brought down TWA 800 on a clear July evening in 1996.

Uh, can't. They were told to keep their mouths shut or else!

62 posted on 11/09/2010 2:11:40 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: miele man

Pontoon boat.


63 posted on 11/09/2010 2:11:45 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: jwparkerjr

There was an Admiral on Fox News earlier who said there is no way this thing could have caused much damage because the payload was obviously not big on it. Downplaying it saying he was putting his money on a private industry launch.

What a load of crap. What private industry would risk everything to do such a stupid stunt other than a state sponsored group or Al Qaeda?


64 posted on 11/09/2010 2:11:57 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: pissant
They know exactly what it is and who fired it.

And where it landed.
65 posted on 11/09/2010 2:11:59 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

We have eyes in the sky. So either our missile tracking sats don't work or somebody is fos.

66 posted on 11/09/2010 2:12:20 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: RobRoy

I just want to know what happened. That is all.

Should I curl up and kiss my rear goodbye?

Does my niece really really need to get me to help with chemistry homework tonight?

You know, important stuff!


67 posted on 11/09/2010 2:12:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Never on my watch
Give the Pentagon a break. They are stretched very thin trying to implement the repeal of "Don't ask, don't tell."

ROFL X 10

68 posted on 11/09/2010 2:12:25 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; NormsRevenge; SE Mom; Grampa Dave; Marine_Uncle; GeronL; SandRat
Argh....not good...

Right in an area that is the US Navy testing area ....heavily instrumented:

http://www.navair.navy.mil/ranges/SEA/index.htm

69 posted on 11/09/2010 2:12:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Pentagon
70 posted on 11/09/2010 2:13:55 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: moodyskeptic

It would appear either the Chicoms, Norks, or Russians were sending us a signal...If they meant to start WW III, they would have send it 35 miles in the other direction and nuked L.A.

OKAY YOU HAVE OUR ATTENTION: PEACE OR WAR?

BTW, why no DEF CON II? Shouldn’t our military be on alert with weapons ready and safeties off? The next one may be headed towards L.A.


71 posted on 11/09/2010 2:14:37 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: My Favorite Headache
No. Just ruled out from a foreign military

If it wasn't ours and it wasn't a foreign military... how many private subs out there are carrying missiles?

72 posted on 11/09/2010 2:14:45 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

Another interesting theory from See-BS:

by skr81 November 9, 2010 12:11 PM EST
ResearchEngineer is right. The false assumptions are completely off base. This launch was from a launch platform in the Pacific. I had dinner with two people on Friday who are aerospace engineers with high security clearance and they told me about this launch and they were checking their smart phones to monitor the Vandenburg launch. They gave me no specifics on the payload of course. They may have mentioned it was a converted oil platform. When I told them I’d never heard of a launch platform out in the Pacific in the area off Los Angeles and tried to get specifics about how far out it was located they weren’t willing to share anymore specifics. We were in a remote area and they were very grateful that I pointed out an open wireless network so they could get data. This was a normal launch with a normal payload, not a political stunt.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8601-201_162-7036716-8.html?assetTypeId=30&blogId=&tag=contentBody;commentWrapper#ixzz14pDerIQ5


73 posted on 11/09/2010 2:15:00 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

How could a ballistic missile launched from sea in close proximity to one of our prime strategic Space Launch bases, Vandenberg AFB, not be a threat?


74 posted on 11/09/2010 2:16:07 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
because the military does not know what the missile was or where it came from


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

75 posted on 11/09/2010 2:16:07 PM PST by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: unkus

It wasn’t a planned one of ours. If it would have been one of ours there would have been paperwork published (NOTMS, etc)so a civilian plane didn’t get accidently hit; no lawsuits that way.


76 posted on 11/09/2010 2:16:14 PM PST by Vor Lady
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Could it be China warning the US after Obama's visit to India.

http://www.kashmirwatch.com/showarticles.php?subaction=showfull&id=1289331373&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&var0news=value0news

US Strategy to Pitch India against China

Kashmir Watch, Nov 9

By Zaheerul Hassan

President Barack Obama has announced $10 billion trade deals with India and claimed that the deal will create 53,670 U.S. jobs. He brought some of the changes in export rules to make it easier for U.S. companies to do business with the nation of 1.2 billion people. US is also relaxing control on India's purchase of "dual use" technologies that could be used for civilian or military purposes, have been top priorities for the business community. The commercial deals include the purchase of thirty three (33) 737s Boeing by India's Spice Jet Airlines; the Indian military's plans to buy aircraft engines from General Electric; and preliminary agreement between Boeing and the Indian Air Force on the purchase of 10 C17s. Though, Obama’s mentioning of trade deal and creation of jobs in US may attribute in up coming democrats' midterm election partly and also depicting an attempt of put his domestic economy back on track.

It is mentionable here that Obama also promised to support Indian nomination as permanent member of United Nation Security Council. Though, overtly the US leader’s visit seem to be a business tour but his covert agenda could be to promote and present India as second super power while pitching her against China. In this way she will be able to get her ultimate objective of hitting two birds in one stone.

Interestingly, at the same time, President Obama declared Pakistan as American’s strategic partner and deliberately avoided of making any lose statement on Pakistan’s related issues. In this connection while addressing the Common Session of Indian Parliament, he advocated the continuation of peace process between Pakistan and India. He also stressed that confrontation on Kashmir issue should be resolved bilaterally, however US can come forward as a mediator if desired by two countries. In short, India failed to achieve optimum results of threshing out Pakistan on the issue of extremisms since Obama has shown maturity by not involving Pakistan in terrorism. He asked both the countries to resolve the disputes for establishing permanent peace.

In fact, Obama exposed US desire openly while saying that the relationship between the two great powers (India and U.S) "will be one of the defining and indispensable partnerships of the 21st century." Declaring India as great power has to be translated and viewed in its true perspective. Unfortunate part of Obama’s visit is that he backed a country where millions of people have been victimized by the extremists’ Hindus and armed forces. During this visit Obama did not mention clearly about human violation of India. However, to gain more sympathies Indian government ensured that American president to stay in Taj Mehal but at the same time never been allowed or to visit Kashmir, Golden Temple and Babri Mosque. Obama said that he intended to send a signal by making Mumbai the first stop of the trip and by staying at the Taj, which was a target during the terror siege." The United States and India stand united," he said. "We'll never forget." This action of organizers of the visit is enough to show true motive of secular state (India) and so called civilized democratic country (USA). Would some out of Obama’s staff would like to clarify that why he only preferred to show solidarity with Hindus only and failed to say something on the brutality against Kashmiries, Maoists, Sikhs and Christians.

The other angle of the visit depicts that Obama’s visit would be adding tension between China-India and Pakistan. Obama has also broadcasted his underline message more openly as compare to the past i.e. making India militarily and economically strong. The American’s president visit and arms pacts with India are being viewed with concern by the China, Pakistan, Russia and Sri Lanka. An arms race, conventional and nuclear, between India and china is now gaining prominence as India is building her weapon piles increasing day by day. Some analysts have also started to view India competing with China in an arms race rather than acquiring weapons merely for defensive purposes. It is mentionable here that India is also developing her nuclear and missile system with the help of Israel and US. The UN Watchdog “IAEA’ should inspect Indian nuclear programme since it has pathetic security arrangement and could prove danger to the human lives again. Though, Indian concerned authorities are trying to tighten the security at nuke plant sites but no worthwhile improvement has been yet noticed. Recently, security was tightened in Maharashtra's Ratnagiri district after villagers clashed with officials of the Nuclear Power Corporation of India. The corporation was constructing a cluster of nuclear power plants in Ratnagiri under the Indo-US nuclear agreement. The villagers, opposing the nuclear establishment, attacked and chased away the officials who were visiting the villages to take soil samples. India is also planning to buy Israeli Missile System. New Delhi has also launched major effort to develop laser weapons for military applications. Reportedly, Indian military is working on laser weapons for deploying on its submarines, destroyers, air force fighters and transport planes.

Actually, Indo-US-Israel collaboration is emerging the world most dangerous collaboration. Few days back, US National Security Adviser Tom Donilon while briefing reporters said that Obama intends the trip to be "a full embrace of India's rise." At this occasion Indian officials Shivshankar Menon endorsed that he doesn’t think that there’s an area of human endeavor in which we do not actually cooperate.

In this connection, very authenticated reports illustrated that: (one) Israeli systems are being tested in India, (two) India is a stake-holder in Iron Dome and David's Sling systems as these are being tested in India, (two) systems have been tested in controlled environment and thus have not gained the un-questioned confidence of Indian side, (fourth) Japanese were also called for demonstration of Israeli missile systems. They remained skeptical and un-committed; (fifth)India is also persisting with its Prithvi Air Defence System PAD in order to keep its intentions are to contain China and stopped Pakistan for further developments.

As a matter of fact after disintegration of Soviet Union, uni-polar system emerged. The new great game and number of new cold wars like: Indo-Pak, Indo-China, North- South Korea, US-Iran and Sri Lanka-India have been started. The regional and global security environment has been changed drastically because of 9/11, American invasions in Iraq and Afghanistan. India took U-turn and became U.S regional and global ally against China and Russia. India in its pursuit of acquiring high technology has been making headway both politically and scientifically. Recently, Indian Defense Minister, AK Antony, to the US marked the highlight of Indo-US relation. Mr Antony had meetings with Secretary Gates, Secretary Clinton and NSA James Jones. Obama administration has been pushing India in awarding defense contracts to the American companies. Indian who is already purchasing arms to restructure her armed forces has welcomed US lucrative defense contracts for transferring high technology.

Concluding I must say that though Obama tried to adopt balanced approach while talking about India Pakistan issues but never forgotten his ultimate objective of putting India against China. The arms race between China and India would definitely going to be speed up. She already tested Agni-II, a revamped Agni-II in the Wheeler Island, off the Orissa coast. Agni-II has two stages and both are powered by solid propellants. It has several features of advanced technology. The missile, which can carry nuclear warheads, can be transported both by rail and road. Its projected range is 2750 to 3000 km. Indian second missile system Agni-III is ready for Operational Induction. According to Defence Minister Mr A K Antony, the 3000 km range Agni-III missile is ready for induction into the armed forces. The nuclear capable ballistic missile would give a boost to India's credible minimum deterrence as no other missile in the Indian arsenal has the range to strike targets deep inside China. She also carried out Strategic Weapons Storages in Bikaner, Jodhpur, Jallandar, Jaisalmer, Bhuj, Bhatinda and Barmer.

World community and US administration should know that Indian design of storage, deployment, development of nuke weapons and recently concluded defence pacts with Israel and USA are serious threats to the regional and global peace. There is a need to stop and condemn Indian aggressive nature of expansionism rather than declaring her a great power and future member of Security Council.

Posted on 10 Nov 2010 by Webmaster
77 posted on 11/09/2010 2:18:01 PM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
There was an Admiral on Fox News earlier who said there is no way this thing could have caused much damage because the payload was obviously not big on it.

How the hell could he tell?

And how big does a warhead have to be?

Any missile landing on American soil could initiate MADD response from the US and Russia (particularly when no one can say who fired the d@mn thing).

--I know, I know, there would not be a mutually assured distruction under Obama, only an assured USA destruction. --

78 posted on 11/09/2010 2:18:55 PM PST by Never on my watch (Never let a kid play with matches or run with scissors; and never give a gavel to a Democrat!)
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To: GeronL
If it wasn't ours and it wasn't a foreign military... how many private subs out there are carrying missiles?

Paging Capt. Nemo...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

79 posted on 11/09/2010 2:20:52 PM PST by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: jerry557

I think of the No Threat wording per usual from Govt.

If it were to gone east and hit US soil then that would have been a threat.

Since it did not hit US soil then of they can say “No threat”.


80 posted on 11/09/2010 2:21:41 PM PST by Global2010
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