The George Bush I Know

The Daily Beast ^ | November 9, 2010 | Mark McKinnon

[raybbr]

Here is the George Bush I know:

BTW, to all you Bush lovers (not you "fishtank") - how is George Bush wanting to create a "new America" any different than Obama wanting to "fundamentally change America"?

We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

Our future cannot be separated from the future of Latin America.

As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico.

George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.

You can read the speech here.

Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:

In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster

[stephenjohnbanker]

” BTW, to all you Bush lovers (not you “fishtank”) - how is George Bush wanting to create a “new America” any different than Obama wanting to “fundamentally change America”? “

The only difference is that unlike Obama, Bush was not a Marxist. This means our destruction would have been slower.

[fishtank]

“Bush was not a Marxist. This means our destruction would have been slower.”

Hey, I love your sarcasm! So, so, so true.

I mean, what a relief that Bush wasn’t a Marxist!

I’m SOOOOOOO glad that he was just a run-of-the-mill blueblood-internationalist-stripedpants-globalist!!!

\sarc

Thanks for the post....

[fishtank]

nice post -— needed reality here on this thread..

[fishtank]

I guess you missed this??? I’ve saved this list for YEARS!!!

By fishtank...updated Dec. 6, 2006

Here’s what a “conservative” is supposed to be?

* Doing his very best to destroy American sovereignty by melding America into Mexico into Canada???

* George W. Bush (43): “I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul.
I knew that President Putin was a man with whom I could work.”

* Allowed his wife to call a homosexual partner’s mom the “mother-in-law” ???

* Allowed the new Iraqi constitution to have a clause where no law would contradict Islam.

* Wanted to sell US port operations to Dubai - a nation that supports terror.

* Advocates a completely open border - to the detriment of national security.

* Calls the Minutemen “vigilantes”.

* Continually calls Islam a “religion of peace”.

* Pursues “free trade”, not fair trade. “Free trade” has not been very fair, so far.

* Supported Specter over Toomey.

* Told Hush to host Specter with softballs, and then Hush carries the water.

* Continually supported Linc Chaffee, and what did it win in the long run?

* Let Ted Kennedy write the education bill.

* Did nothing to rein in pork barrel government spending.

* In an exclusive interview with ABC News’ Charles Gibson, Bush said he believes that both Christians and Muslims worship the same God. “I think we do. We have different routes of getting to the Almighty,” Bush said.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=193746&page=1

*****

I’m listing the actions of the PRESIDENT (Bush), FYI.

[ohioWfan]

Wow. That's quite a 'list' fishtank.

So you believe that conservative men should restrict what their wives say? Interesting. (I hope you're not married).

And you believe that an error in judgement about Putin 10 years ago should forever be held against President Bush?

And you believe that the very legitimate Dubai ports deal was a negative?

And you truly, truly believe that President Bush doesn't believe in U.S. Sovereignty? Hoo boy! Can we say 'cult??'

And you really believe that he called the Minutemen 'vigilantes?' (better check that one out.....)

And can you find ANY sitting President (including the now perfect Reagan) who didn't support an incumbent Senator in an election? Just one??

Your 'list' is filled with gaping holes, presumptions and grudge-holding.

The cartoon was more fitting your 'thought' process. Stick with the drawings. They're more compelling than this 'list' of yours....

[ohioWfan]

So then, eleni, your definition of 'good' is to do exactly what you want politically?

Then, may we presume that the United States has never had a 'good' President, in your esteemed opinion? Certainly Reagan's blatant amnesty and broken campaign promises about taxes and shrinking government keep him from qualifying.

IMO, if anything is 'sad' it's your jaded view.

(btw, people who did their homework were not 'misled' by these imaginary 'schemes.' Shame on you for not paying attention to what he said before and after he was elected).

[ohioWfan]

Wonder where the rest of the boy band is. When one appears on an “I hate President Bush” thread, surely the others can’t be far behind.....

[KeyLargo]

House Republican: Bush ‘destroyed GOP’
By Michael O’Brien - 11/10/10 11:29 AM ET

Former President George W. Bush is no “class act,” a Republican lawmaker insisted Wednesday. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) said Bush had “destroyed” the GOP during his eight years in office in a blunt shot at the former Republican president, who on Tuesday released his book, “Decision Points.”

Rohrabacher tweeted Wednesday:

@MarkRMatthews Bush not class act, destroyed GOP, jailed Ramos & Compean, left us bailouts, gave more power to fed gov & China.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/128593-republican-bush-destroyed-gop

[eleni121]

Good comes from actions—most of Bush’s actions while in office and out have not been not “good”.

Is that simple enough for you? we’re not talking rocket science here-—he is not a next door neighbor - he occupied the presidency and he did not measure up.

Worse— He paved the way for the Obamination.

[ohioWfan]

That "Bush caused Obama" tripe is just not backed up by reality, eleni. I know it's the feeling of many around here, but it's just not historically accurate.

I'll leave you to your own personal definition of "good," which defies all reason, and end by saying...President Bush is a good man. Period.

[eleni121]

Elitist Bush like all elitists called American border patriots vigilantes. What is good about that? Nothing.

http://www.rense.com/general63/decries.htm

[Revolting cat!]

Next time please PING me early enough so I can post: IBLBHCP (In Before Lame Bush Has Class Posts!)

[ohioWfan]

LOL! More of the same........only the 'elitist' charge is new......and a hoot.

You can't win this argument, eleni. George W. Bush is a good man whether you agree with his political positions or not.

[eleni121]

I wonder where the profits are going from this “please love me” book of BS?

[Revolting cat!]

We elect mediocrities, because they make us feel good about our poor selves, and we diss brilliant men like Alan Keyes. Briliance doesn’t sell, it makes us feel inferior.

George Bush is a singularly inarticulate man, someone else observes on this or the other concurrent thread. True. But didn’t he have a staff of Harvard educated speech writers? What happened?

And now this inarticulate man writes a book. Writes? No, “writes”! My daughter axed me last night if I was going to read it. I answered that I’d read it as soon as the alleged author has read it. I don’t have to remind you instances when your favorite politicians and celebrities were exposed as not having read their own books.

I told her I’d sooner read Keith Richards’ book, that is when it comes down in price to $6 a copy on Amazon or at Half Price Books.

In the meantime, let’s believe, as Karl Rove once informed us that George W. Bush reads 100 books a year. Maybe he does, I dunno. Neither do you!

[fishtank]

House Republican: Bush ‘destroyed GOP’

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/128593-republican-bush-destroyed-gop

[fishtank]

I’ve been aware of Bush’s faux ways since many years ago in Texas when he and Rove stabbed the forerunners of the Tea Party in the back.

This was even before he was governor in Texas.

Don’t lecture me, please, and watch out who you put the “cult” label on ... maybe you need to go light another candle in front of the “W” shrine you keep in your living room.

[ohioWfan]

Don't lecture YOU? LOL! Now that's funny.

(Actually I knew immediately after I posted that response to your 'list' that I shouldn't have stuck that 'cult' crack in there because it would give you an excuse to avoid dealing with the rest of my questions......and sure enough I was right. All you did was whine and attack and evade the actual questions).

At any rate, your 'list' is like Swiss Cheese, fishtank. Filled with yawning holes so big you could drive a truck through them.

So instead of defending it by answering my specific questions, you grab onto the one word that makes you mad and call me an idolator (a tired old ad hominem from a tired old bunch of BDSers). I've dealt enough with Bush haters to know better than to give you an escape hatch, and I was stupid to do it.

Anyway, your evasion says a lot since it's clearly the best you have.

But I gotta say, if you really think Laura Bush should only say what her husband 'allows' her to say, I do hope you're not married.....what a weird thing to include on a 'list' of dastardly deeds that the eeeeeevil Bush has imposed on the world.

Oh well. Maybe sometime you can answer the rest of the questions I asked, eh? You know, like that absurd accusation that patriot, country-loving George W. Bush doesn't believe in U.S. Sovereignty? That one's a hoot.

If not, enjoy stewing in your 'I-hate-Bush' juices. Must be a great way to live.....hating a man of integrity. If it weren't a deliberate choice on your part, I'd feel sorry for you.

[ohioWfan]

Gee..........I think the Republicans just smashed the Dems into the ground on election day, fishtank.

Seems like they haven't been 'destroyed.' I guess that might be called a 'matter of opinion' as to whether or not a President can destroy a party that clearly has not been destroyed, eh?

Question.......were you upset after the Republican victory? Or were you encouraged that it is the Republicans who listened to the people (with some obvious exceptions)?