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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
“If the black kids were as diligent and disciplined as the Asian students in suburban schools, I would not be a bit surprised if they did just as well.”

Exactly! It is the values of the Asian parents instilled in their children and the discipline applied that makes these children so successful.

Blacks do not parent, they breed for the financial gimme-gimme benefits from the govt., and the kids are left on their own to survive. Theirs is a sick society that must choose to heal what ails them.

91 posted on 11/09/2010 11:53:37 AM PST by itssme
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To: itssme
“If the black kids were as diligent and disciplined as the Asian students in suburban schools, I would not be a bit surprised if they did just as well.”

Then you have no understanding of the problem.

97 posted on 11/09/2010 12:00:17 PM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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To: itssme
It is the values of the Asian parents instilled

If you think the expectations of the "teachers" don't have anything to do with this you just don't know any teachers. Ever heard anyone use the word(?) uneducable? I have, more than once, and all who use it are "teachers."

Maybe a "dumb black kid" might not be able to read by the time he's in second grade, but do you really think he couldn't be taught to read by the time he's in fourth grade?

ML/NJ

117 posted on 11/09/2010 1:36:55 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: itssme

“Exactly! It is the values of the Asian parents instilled in their children and the discipline applied that makes these children so successful”

Um, you missed something.

The most important asset “instilled” by Asians to their children is their genetic heritage.

North Asians test the highest of all racial groups for native intelligence (notwithstanding a very small group of Ashkenazi Jews).

North Asians measure about 1/3 of a standard deviation above Caucasians in standard IQ tests.

That intellectual gift bestowed upon Asians (properly nurtured, of course) is the unspeakable “elephant in the room” for their success as a group.

We can dream all we want about “everyone” being “equal” and capable of the same things, “if only we give them the chances they deserve”, etc., etc.

But that isn’t what conservatism is about. Indeed, the baseline for true conservatism is being able to see the reality of the human condition for what it is. That means accepting the unpleasant truths along with the pleasant ones.

As a Caucasian, do I “resent” the fact that most Asians I meet probably were endowed with more intellectual ability than me? No, not worth the waste of my angst.

But I don’t attempt to deny the truth, either.

Too many “conservatives” attempt to do exactly that, when dealing with the gritty and all-but intractable dilemma of “diversity” in our schools....


197 posted on 11/09/2010 9:02:32 PM PST by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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