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Hostage shot dead by Somali pirates
Reuters ^ | Nov. 7, 2010 | Abdi Guled

Posted on 11/07/2010 11:04:39 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

MOGADISHU, Nov 7 (Reuters) - A man was shot dead on Sunday after he refused to disembark from a yacht in the Indian Ocean that was hijacked by Somali pirates last week, pirates and residents said on Sunday.

The man was killed in Barawe town on the southern Somali coastline by pirates who had taken him hostage and wanted him to go onshore from his yacht in which he was sailing with others, including a woman and a boy.

His nationality was not immediately clear.

"He was shot and killed after he refused to disembark from his yacht and move onshore in Baraawe town," Ali Shuke, a resident in Baraawe town said.

(Excerpt) Read more at af.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hostages; maritime; somalipirates
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1 posted on 11/07/2010 11:04:39 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When the pirates give you an opportunity to disembark and head for shore, you do it.


2 posted on 11/07/2010 11:09:15 AM PST by aNYCguy
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just some poor little terrorists doing the job that other pirates won’t do.


3 posted on 11/07/2010 11:10:03 AM PST by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: aNYCguy
"When the pirates give you an opportunity to disembark and head for shore, you do it."

I don't know...that sounds like one of those "lose-lose" situations.

4 posted on 11/07/2010 11:12:33 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
His nationality was not immediately clear I am thinking he is not a Russian.
5 posted on 11/07/2010 11:14:26 AM PST by ColdOne (Who Knew? MSNBC has ethics? Fired Keif!!!!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s about time we bomb the coastline - much like we did in 1815 - it’s time we deal with these Muslim pirates once and for all - death to them!


6 posted on 11/07/2010 11:15:28 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Better coverage here:

http://www.thepost.co.za/?fSectionId=3533&fArticleId=1.731051&fFeed=sanews

“An Al Shabaab rebel spokesman who declined to give his name earlier said the hostage killed was South African, and his body was lying in the morgue at the town’s hospital.

He said he had been notified of the victim’s nationality by the pirates.

Al Shabaab, an al Qaeda-linked rebel group, controls Barawe on the southern coast of the anarchic Horn of Africa nation that has been mired in violence and is awash with weapons since the overthrow of a dictator in 1991.

The UN-backed administration of President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed controls just a few blocks of the capital.”

“Earlier this week, Mwangura said he also was trying to verify reports that the sailors were British.

The British foreign office has said it had heard of the reports of the hijacking, and was investigating the incident.”


7 posted on 11/07/2010 11:16:48 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

For the life of me I don’t understand why these vessels don’t have guns and just blow the pirates out of the water. One warning shot and after that it would be all over. Or, what the heck, why waste a good warning shot?


8 posted on 11/07/2010 11:17:01 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: Free ThinkerNY

chances are if he had been put to shore on enemy turf so to speak, he wouldn’t of fared very well, quick and painless was probably a better option than long and drawn out.


9 posted on 11/07/2010 11:21:15 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The man was killed in Barawe town on the southern Somali coastline by pirates who had taken him hostage and wanted him to go onshore from his yacht in which he was sailing with others, including a woman and a boy.

I thought it was a worldwide agreement that ships and boats wouldn't carry weapons to defend themselves outside of military craft?

Oh that's right pirate ships are exempt.

10 posted on 11/07/2010 11:22:39 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: From The Deer Stand

I heard the ships are not armed because of insurance concerns....


11 posted on 11/07/2010 11:25:03 AM PST by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: From The Deer Stand

A private yacht with a small crew might have a pistol, shotgun or rifle.

The pirates WILL HAVE AK-47s, RPGs and maybe frags.

To safely defend a small yacht you would need a .50BMG [Barret or similar] (reach out and touch someone!), several suitably backed Claymores and a few autoloaders. Plus the crew would have to be trained to use the weapons and willing to KILL their attackers.

Finally, the pirates often attack in high speed smaller boats based with a larger mother ship, i.e. they have reinforcements that you can’t outrun.

The solution is for nations to take out the pirates.

Another option was presented in Nevil Shute’s “Most Secret”.
http://www.amazon.com/Most-Secret-Nevil-Shute/dp/1842322699


12 posted on 11/07/2010 11:29:16 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Joe 6-pack

And it’s a win-win situation for the pirates. Even when they’re caught, they’re almost always released- either outright or to some local “authority”. We need more situations like the one where the U.S. Navy ship was trailing the pirates who had the American as hostage. Idiot Obama gave orders to shoot only if the hostage’s life was in danger. Luckily, the Navy ship captain decided to “obey” Obama’s orders by waiting until one of the pirates scratched his nose the wrong way and the Navy sharpshooters blew two heads off. Obama was smart enough not to complain.


13 posted on 11/07/2010 11:34:02 AM PST by Krankor (I can't see me loving nobody but you- for all my life.)
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To: Krankor
Exactly. The civilized world continues to keep its collective head buried firmly in the sand. They refuse to acknowledge that these pirates have no regard for the lives of others, and they are merely operating on a very simple cost-benefit analysis. They would stop tomorrow if the price became too high.

Haven't heard of a Russian flagged ship being hijacked since they set a pirate crew adrift with no engine or water a few months back.

14 posted on 11/07/2010 11:38:03 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: BwanaNdege

Among the many other problems is that most crewmen on freighters are Filipinos and Bangaladeshis and, etc. who are paid slave wages and are not trained or inclined to take up arms in defense of their boss’s ship. That’s why you have to pay big time for mercs.

I recall a scene in the Military Channel’s recent “Special Ops” reality show when our heroes are acting as unarmed fisheries enforcers for Liberia and they are boarding and searching an poaching fishing vessel. They’re unarmed and surrounded by the crew as they impound the boat but none of the men is about to raise a finger against them because they’re not getting paid to do that sort of thing and it ain’t their boat anyway.

I was wondering at the time what would have happened if the captain of the poacher had suddenly held up a fistful of greenbacks and started screaming that any man who helped him pound these guys and throw them overboard would be paid $1000.00 on the spot?


15 posted on 11/07/2010 11:43:16 AM PST by sinanju
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To: aNYCguy

The Somalis have been given a free pass by the West because they are black. Somalis are a global cancer. Ask Minnesota, Maine, the UK and Denver airport. Evil evil people.


16 posted on 11/07/2010 11:43:54 AM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Krankor

The Navy saved Obama’s bacon. A few more days and Barry-as-pirate t-shirts would have hit the streets and Obama would have been the World’s laughingstock.


17 posted on 11/07/2010 11:45:29 AM PST by sinanju
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To: BCW

Long Overdue.


18 posted on 11/07/2010 11:48:44 AM PST by onona (dbada)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hows do you stop this? Sink every boat in that town’s harbor. Repeat as necessary.


19 posted on 11/07/2010 11:48:56 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: Joe 6-pack; sinanju

It is solely a “cost effective” response. As another Freeper mentioned, the ships aren’t armed because of insurance reasons. If Obama authorized the same type of response as the drone attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan, the pirates would lose heart really fast. And I’m talking about, once you identify a mother ship, you blow it out of the water- no chance to surrender or debate or even talk. Just blow them away.


20 posted on 11/07/2010 12:00:13 PM PST by Krankor (I can't see me loving nobody but you- for all my life.)
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