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Back to the Bush Coalition
Weekly Standard ^ | November 5, 2010 | Jay Cost

Posted on 11/06/2010 10:09:46 AM PDT by ejdrapes


Back to the Bush Coalition



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KEYWORDS: demslosebig; midterms; presbush
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My question is, how do we get back the Northeast and Northwest (excluding no-hope New York and California) with out having to run Mike Castle/Olympia Snow/Susan Collins type candidates?
1 posted on 11/06/2010 10:09:50 AM PDT by ejdrapes
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To: ejdrapes

The RINO Standard wants to go back to the Bush years?

Oh heck no.


2 posted on 11/06/2010 10:11:56 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: ejdrapes
My question is, how do we get back the Northeast and Northwest

Yankeeland and Kalifonication are both write offs. Let them stew in their own collective juices. No bail outs! What the 2010 election proved is that some areas are completely f-ed, beyond hope. Yes, there is a geographic component at work.

3 posted on 11/06/2010 10:21:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ejdrapes

I don’t see any hope for California, unless the new redistricting panel makes a difference. In Oregon, there might be GOP majorities in both state houses. If they stick to their guns they can redistrict out at least one if not two Dem representatives. (Schrader or DeFazio)


4 posted on 11/06/2010 10:27:57 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: central_va

Wait one minute. The Mainers did their part by going red. The next on the to do list is retiring Snowjob and Collins.


5 posted on 11/06/2010 10:28:57 AM PDT by cp124 (The government junkie can't live without the fix.)
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To: central_va
"...collective..."

What a fitting word. O:)

6 posted on 11/06/2010 10:30:26 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: ejdrapes

Let me know when you get a suitable answer to that...that’s a BIG question. :)


7 posted on 11/06/2010 10:33:08 AM PDT by chasio649 (Paybacks are a Behar)
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To: Tailback

California is hopeless. Give it back to Mexico.


8 posted on 11/06/2010 10:33:34 AM PDT by ejdrapes (I like leaders that don't need teleprompters or notes written on their hand....)
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To: chasio649

Maybe we can clone Marco Rubio or Chris Christie. :-)


9 posted on 11/06/2010 10:35:24 AM PDT by ejdrapes (I like leaders that don't need teleprompters or notes written on their hand....)
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No. Lets sell Califorina to the slimey mexicans....


10 posted on 11/06/2010 10:40:04 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Tailback

This election in California shows promise for Conservatism.

Who agreed with me two years ago that the Obama win would usher in a new era of Conservatism nation-wide?

We have the exact same dynamics at play in California right now. Sure it looks bleak on the surface, but there is plenty to be happy about.

You touch on reapportionment. Every California state and federal district is about to be cleaned up. Districts will be redefined by population AND political party make-up.

In 2012, for the first time in over fifty years, the Republicans will have a chance to win district elections, both state and federal.

The Democrats currently hold the Legislature and now the Governor’s mansion. They also hold every state level office (non-Legislature) at the capital.

You know as well as I do what happens when the Democrats have absolute power. They won’t be able to help themselves. They’ll go for the unholy grail, and screw themselves right into the dirt.

I’m predicting right now a massive sea change for California in 2012. Between now an then, it’s our duty to make sure taxpayers, small business employees, and just the general run of the mill citizens understand what favorable treatment of illegal aliens portends for them.

Just about everyone will understand when their property taxes and all sorts of other taxes go up. And they all will, because there’s now nobody to stop the state legislature from changing the rules. Grandpa Jerry will sign anything they send over.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel.


11 posted on 11/06/2010 10:43:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (BHO fans said I was a hater, dismissed my thoughts. Sure glad our side isn't like that.)
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To: ejdrapes

It’s all part of the Tokyo Rove op to get Jeb Bush elected president. Ignore them, they’ll go away.


12 posted on 11/06/2010 10:44:01 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: DoughtyOne

This election in California shows promise for Conservatism.

Who agreed with me two years ago that the Obama win would usher in a new era of Conservatism nation-wide?

We have the exact same dynamics at play in California right now. Sure it looks bleak on the surface, but there is plenty to be happy about.


Two years ago McCain turned his back on Michigan, Sarah thought about “going rogue” there, and how’d Michigan vote Tuesday—?? That’s right. Straight Repub/TP/conservative ticket.

Calif and other blue states just need to hit rock bottom. We’ll get there.


13 posted on 11/06/2010 10:46:57 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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Well, it’s going to be one big ship-wreck, but when California emerges from this dark era, it will be something to be pointed to for generations to come.

I just hope the text-book is written effectively (from a Conservative point of view) that heralds what brought this on.


14 posted on 11/06/2010 10:57:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (BHO fans said I was a hater, dismissed my thoughts. Sure glad our side isn't like that.)
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To: cp124

New Hampshire, too. I’ve been searching for the answer why they went so much to the Republicans. Are their economies worse that even the rest of the country? Gay marriage opposition/ repeal? Or are they close enough to Massachusetts that Romneycare as the harbinger of Obamacare has them paying better attention, while the national media screen remains largely in place?


15 posted on 11/06/2010 11:10:30 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: ejdrapes
George W. Bush is the first Republican in history to win an election without a single electoral vote from the Northeast, the historic base of the Republican party. Indeed, Bush’s victories in 2000 and 2004 looked quite a bit like the coalitions Democrats used to build prior to the New Deal—uniting the South and the West, with a handful of Midwestern swing states.

Although most Republicans and Independents don’t realize it, Bush didn’t get support from the establishment “blue blood” Republicans any more than he did from the democrats. Once he won, though, he was willing to forgive and forget. The McCain wing joined the establishment types, though, and far from “coming aboard” the Bush coalition they joined in each and every effort against Bush. Just as soon as any democrat propaganda campaign got the least bit of traction, the insider crowd joined in and badmouthed Bush right along with the democrats. They were rabidly focused on not having him use his status as President to build a coalition they didn’t approve of. Bush, of course, was so wrapped up in other things after 9/11 that he could hardly afford to smack down any support he had on critical votes even if they were running wild elsewhere. RINOS, as a consequence of their backstabbing when they knew Dub couldn't strike back coupled with not so subtle democrat aid, were a lot more influential than they would have been otherwise. People like Rove also hid their true colors while playing footsie with those slandering the President they swore they were protecting. Now, though, people have shown their true colors and won't be granted permission to come aboard.

The problem for Republicans is that while the Bush coalition is broader than its opposition, it is not nearly as firm.

Wrong and deliberately wrong in order to plant an erroneous idea. The Bush coalition is every bit as strong as the opposition but it had to fight both the opposition and a fifth column of liberal eastern and compromising western insiders. The democrat fascist party will fracture like a cheap glass now that they’ve lost the House as it is now becoming obvious that they have no way to reward all those factions they promised to reward. Worse for them still, they’ve shown that they are not going to grant any power at all to the more extreme leftists who provided many of the critical grunts in 2008. The Chicago way is in place and those leftists so willing to work are no longer required since access to cash granted the fascists billions to buy the UAW and others with. Who needs emotional and cranky college kids when you can have tough guys who work for a living and are desperate to not lose their gravy train? The problem is, those same sort of folks are always looking out for their own intrests and monitoring their odds minute by minute. They're also old enough and wise enough to never ignore an elephant in the room while young zealots will walk the plank for you (old fools will as well apparently, but that's a different sign of weakness in the democrat camp).

Yet the Republicans won most presidential battles during this period because they nominated politically attractive candidates—typically from Midwestern swing states—who satisfied all factions within the party without scaring off swing voters.

This sort of conclusion takes the comparison with an earlier era beyond the breaking point. The Tea Party and honest Republicans are no longer concerned that we’ll offend swing voters. Swing voters are now worried that someone will compromise and allow the fascists back in power, not that the Republican party might not be able to restrain themselves. Taking an era fat on memories of a bloody Civil War and comparing it to an era not looking at recent violence falls apart on close inspection. A better comparison is actually the decade leading up to the Civil War but again that only goes so far.

Now, when California falls apart it has the potential of becoming “bloody Kansas”, the focal point for confrontations between two worldviews where each side becomes less and less inclined to compromise and neither side can win. Even then, however, the fascist left cannot keep winning unless they can recreate swing voters, something unlikely since the fascists proven that they are indeed anti-democratic fascists who cannot be trusted to even follow the rules in Congress. That degree of sobering reality isn’t easily forgotten and only those who don’t yet realize that the worm has turned think there are traditional “swing” voters left in this country. The only “swing” voters will be those in the Republican primaries who decide which candidate is conservative enough or in some cases, too conservative. Remember, too, that these days “too conservative” is way, way, beyond what the fascist left likes to portray it as. No one is going to be considered far too conservative, for example, just for saying that you can't trust a democrat to represent you rather than their party now that it is an obvious fact.

Regards

16 posted on 11/06/2010 11:26:17 AM PDT by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: ejdrapes

It is interesting to ponder whether Dubya could have beaten Obama if he had been on the ballot instead of Yosemite Sam McCain.


17 posted on 11/06/2010 11:32:40 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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We need to get back to the Reagan coalition, not the Bush coalition. The neocons at the Weekly Standard are idiots.
18 posted on 11/06/2010 12:55:10 PM PDT by bwc2221
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Bush would have lost to Obama too. Bush's approval rating was in the low 30s, the country was in a mood to prove to the world it wasn't racist and there is no way MSM would have let anyone other than Barack Obama win.
19 posted on 11/06/2010 1:00:41 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: bwc2221

What is a neocon? I see that word thrown around all the time but no one has ever been able to explain it well, other than negative code word for someone who supports Jews/Israel.


20 posted on 11/06/2010 1:12:18 PM PDT by ejdrapes (I like leaders that don't need teleprompters or notes written on their hand....)
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