Yeah, it would be real handy to have some guns when your new neighbors want to cut your head off for their new YouTube video...
Posted on 11/06/2010 6:21:13 AM PDT by marktwain
Firearms laws should be strengthened in the wake of the murderous rampage in Cumbria by Derrick Bird, an independent report said yesterday. But only "far more fundamental changes" on private ownership of guns could have prevented the tragedy, the UK's senior firearms licensing specialist concluded.
The report clears Cumbria police of mishandling licences for three shotguns and a rifle granted to Bird, who murdered 12 people and seriously injured 11 others before killing himself in June this year.
It says that officers carried out the process "robustly and professionally" and had no legal grounds to ban Bird from gun ownership despite his criminal record of theft, drink driving and allegations of threatening behaviour.
The Whitehaven taxi driver's six-month suspended sentence for stealing decorating equipment from his former employer, British Nuclear Fuels, prompted the main proposal in the report: a five-year ban on owning guns by anyone with a suspended sentence of more than three months.
Assistant chief constable Adrian Whiting, the head of the firearms and licensing working group of the Association of Chief Police Officers, also proposed more compulsory liaison with mental health services, GPs and other family members before the granting of a firearms certificate. Neither measure would have stopped Bird, who had few dealings with the health service and gave relatives no sign of the apparent breakdown which overwhelmed him – probably because of an impending tax inquiry.
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The US suppression of "silencers" for firearms has been a health policy disaster. Millions of people have suffered unnecessary hearing loss because of stupid paranoia on the part of "Progressives".
There you have it! Guns don't kill people, TAX INQUIRIES do!
We need a COMPREHENSIVE BAN on the IRS!
/sarc
Well, maybe not?
Beat me to it! But that’s alright. Loved the thinking!!!
I can’t believe the Brits allow felons to have guns. The won’t let law-abiding citizens have guns, yet felons... well that’s OK. It just goes to show you that gun control laws are not designed really for the purpose of preventing crime. They are designed for the purpose of preventing populist insurrection. But the pols can’t admit that.
Meanwhile, no ban on that murderous cult that is taking over England and WILL eventually implement Sharia law, which will pardon all people who kill at one shot ten times the number that this sick bastard did.
Good bye, England. It was nice while it lasted.
Apparently, the one thing they could have done to stop this, was to outlaw "impending tax inquiries."
Great Britain: a nation that is a good example how NOT to anything.
One of the UK’s most renowned serial killers never used a gun. Jack the Ripper used a scalpel..
I completely agree! Changes like, recognizing a right for people to keep arms for their own defense, might well have prevented this tragedy. And that is, indeed a mighty fundamental change on private ownership of guns in that land.
How fast is Britain losing land to Sharia law, compared to losing land from sea level rise?
Yeah, it would be real handy to have some guns when your new neighbors want to cut your head off for their new YouTube video...
Well, there you have it. He admitted the entire premise of their gun control ideology is flawed and will never work. They recognize this yet continue to trample the rights of what should be free people.
And I agree with you regarding suppressors... I know it sure would be nice to not have to deal with clumsy gear and hearing protection. After all, anyone can make a functioning suppressor, we see them being used in crimes every day in the US, don't we? We have hollywood to blame for that one as well.
The British public is banned from owning private handguns and semi-assault rifles.
We are still free to own rifles and shotguns as long as they are licenced.
1—Islam is NOT taking over Britain!.
How many times do we British on this site have to say that?. The Muslim population of Britain is 3%.
2—Sharia Law exists in five English cities. None in Scotland, Wales, NI, Isle of Man, the Channel Islands.
It is a civil law used mainly for legal arbitration in business disputes which legally cannot trump English law (Arbitration Act of 1996). It is in fact no different to the Jewish Beth Din law which has been in Britain for oevr 100 years.
And there are NO plans to extend it beyond the five trial cities, in fact the Tories publicly states that they would not extend it, and they of course now make up most ot the Coalition govt.
I could say the very same about America.
1—Islam is NOT taking over Britain!.
How many times do we British on this site have to say that?. The Muslim population of Britain is 3%.
2—Sharia Law exists in five English cities. None in Scotland, Wales, NI, Isle of Man, the Channel Islands.
It is a civil law used mainly for legal arbitration in business disputes which legally cannot trump English law (Arbitration Act of 1996). It is in fact no different to the Jewish Beth Din law which has been in Britain for oevr 100 years.
And there are NO plans to extend it beyond the five trial cities, in fact the Tories publicly states that they would not extend it, and they of course now make up most of the Coalition govt.
HUH? SPEAK LOUDER.
How many times do we British on this site have to say that?. The Muslim population of Britain is 3%.
I didn't say it was. Actually, I didn't say anything, I asked a question. How much land has been ceded to Sharia law? The answer is an area - square miles or hectares, or something. Zero would serve, if that's your answer. But it apparently isn't.
2—Sharia Law exists in five English cities. None in Scotland, Wales, NI, Isle of Man, the Channel Islands.
It is a civil law used mainly for legal arbitration in business disputes which legally cannot trump English law (Arbitration Act of 1996).
Legally it can't, but practically, it might. There are certainly areas in France and other places, where official police officers (and most non-Muslims) DO NOT GO. Irrespective of the law.
In any case, what is the area of these jurisdictions, and how does that area compare to the area of British land lost to rising seas?
It is in fact no different to the Jewish Beth Din law which has been in Britain for oevr 100 years.
I'm not convinced Jews represent the threat to Western civilization that Muslims do.
And there are NO plans to extend it beyond the five trial cities, in fact the Tories publicly states that they would not extend it, and they of course now make up most of the Coalition govt.
First, the best laid plans gang aft agley.
Second, the Tories might be in power now, but maybe not forever. Muslims have proven at least one thing, they are a patient lot. They hold grudges for thousands of years... they will almost certainly outlast the Tories. At that point, your answer no longer applies. Whether Britain is sunk by rising seas by that time remains an open question. My guess is that it won't be.
This is a long post, but shows that where Muslims dominate, violence follows, even after they’ve taken control. Islam is a warrior’s code, not a religion.
Islam Explained in Layman’s Terms
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.
Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.
Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.
When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.
Here’s how it works:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 5.2%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77..5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.
Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.
Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse. The wolves will be herding the sheep!
Obama appointed two devout Muslims to Homeland Security posts. Doesn’t this make you feel safer already? Arif Alikhan as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development and Kareem Shora as ADC National Executive Director.
NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just wondering.
Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesn’t this make you feel safer already??
Was it not “Devout Muslims” who flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago?
Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood?
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