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To: Arcy

Aside from the benefit of no longer being in anti-business Illinoise, why would the company pack up and move instead of firing all the unionists and hiring new workers from the same community?


4 posted on 11/05/2010 7:46:21 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: RightOnTheBorder; mdmathis6; Arcy
"cuts in vacation"

The company wanted the union employees concessions to cut managers vacation from six (6!!!) weeks to five (5!!!), and the rest of the IAMAW union members from five (5!!!!) to four (4!!!!)

Holy smokes, our military only gets 30 days a year, AND THEY DESERVE IT!

6 posted on 11/05/2010 7:49:22 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: RightOnTheBorder

how long do you think it would be before the union thugged its way in and reunionzed? Ill with its history of thuggery and corruption is union friendly


7 posted on 11/05/2010 7:49:47 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RightOnTheBorder
That would be just about impossible in Illinois. Even in a right to work state, it would take a full year to remove and replace (via a desertification election) the workers.
9 posted on 11/05/2010 7:53:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

If the employees have voted to organize in a non-right to work state, you cannot legally do that. You must have cause to fire them and being a union member is NOT cause. You would have to rehire from the union ranks anyway because the employees had voted it in.

Leaving for a right to work state is all the company can do. That is why what manufactoring we have left has been moving to southern states.


11 posted on 11/05/2010 7:56:53 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

I don’t think it will take that long for them to leave...the union thugs will be vandalizing and sabotaging the plant!!


18 posted on 11/05/2010 8:00:02 AM PDT by ontap
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Aside from the benefit of no longer being in anti-business Illinoise, why would the company pack up and move instead of firing all the unionists and hiring new workers from the same community?


State law may have prevented it. This is not a right to work state.

Also, who would they hire. They would have classified as SCABS by the union, and the union promotes violence against scabs. Any new hires would know they (and their family) would be in danger of union violence.

The only way to get around this is to move the plant to a right to work state. That is what has been happening for decades. It is why the rust belt has been shrinking, and the sun belt has been growing.


31 posted on 11/05/2010 8:31:54 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The next step for the Tea Party--The Conservative Hand--is available at Amazon.com)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
why would the company pack up and move instead of firing all the unionists and hiring new workers from the same community?

Because the Obamaregime's DOJ would sue them for "violating the union workers civil rights" or something like that.

Besides, Tuesday's election guaranteed that the company would be paying alot more in taxes to stay in Illinois, so in the company's mind this is probably a win-win decision. They get rid of their petulant union workers and move to a state where they will pay ALOT less to do business.

With the demand for ammunition being so high combined the the companies lower cost of doing business will probably offset the loss of any government contracts they might have. If they have any with the state of Illinois the loss of those contracts will be a "good thing"-Illinois is not paying any of it's bills.

33 posted on 11/05/2010 8:36:30 AM PDT by Nahanni
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To: RightOnTheBorder

The article states that the only way the company could remain competitive in Illinois was to offset the anti-competitiveness of the state through cuts in their workers pay and benefits.

And that is basically the reaping of the whirlwind for all the years of stupidity that the Illinois voter has inflicted upon themselves.


41 posted on 11/05/2010 9:13:41 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
The article states that the only way the company could remain competitive in Illinois was to offset the anti-competitiveness of the state through cuts in their workers pay and benefits.

And that is basically the reaping of the whirlwind for all the years of stupidity that the Illinois voter has inflicted upon themselves.

43 posted on 11/05/2010 9:14:22 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

I’m no labor lawyer, but if what you suggest is done, the present union could sue for major damages and the NLRB, who is fully owned and operated by the unions, but is staffed and funded by the Federal government, as an “Arbiter over labor disputes”, would come down very hard on the company. In essence it is illegal to do what you say. It was tried in the coal fields in southern West Virginia. The result was a war between coal operators and unionizers and eventually the U.S. Army. Socialism won out, and unions have become malignant bullies ever since.
Socialism is a cancer that must be removed, even if it takes off a limb. Unions are a polyp of socialism located in the colon.


45 posted on 11/05/2010 9:44:44 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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