Posted on 11/05/2010 3:09:24 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Ex-President George W. Bush rips wisdom of Barack Obama, Sarah Palin and John McCain to friends
WASHINGTON - Two years of retirement haven't dulled George W. Bush's political zest - and President Obama and Sarah Palin are among his under-the-radar targets.
The 43rd President has told friends the ex-Alaska governor isn't qualified to be President and criticizes Arizona Sen. John McCain for putting Palin on the 2008 GOP ticket and handing her a national platform.
"Naming Palin makes Bush think less of McCain as a man," a Republican official familiar with Bush's thinking told the Daily News.
"He thinks McCain ran a lousy campaign with an unqualified running mate and destroyed any chance of winning by picking Palin."
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
What BS! If they were friends they wouldn't be talking, period. And I doubt any friends of Pres. Bush would talk to the Daily News.
The corrupt bastards just make it up.
I also don't think that Pres. Bush would say that about McCain or anyone else including Palin. That doesn't even sound like him.
Some two-bit RINO hack maybe said it but not Pres. Bush himself.
Rove is not the source in this article. Rove is off the reservation now and he has different goals -— big tent -— so he’s lost the conservative base that Sarah Palin and Jim DeMint own for their endorsements.
2012 has started: primarily the ‘stop Palin’ factions. Tough for them. She hasn’t yet started to warm-up. LOL.
Exactly! It's a load of BULL*HIT and anyone who believes it is living in LA LA LAND!
LOL. Well, thank you for looking-up his name. I had completely erased it from my memory! “Matt” - I guess I was thinking, “door MATT.”
Frum is a complete self-infatuated pretender. In additon to being an elitist, he never had the President’s ear, he never had a whit of influence, and he lies all the time. He’s a complete phony.
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I agree with that .. and he’s vengeful.
Hard to accept many times, but true: all humans have feet of
clay and flaws.
I see Rove’s behavior as an egotistical and very petty
lashing out, and at a completely different level of
integrity from Pres. Bush, who’s probably one of the most
evolved people I’ve ever observed. Although I’m sure Rove
was given some tolerant leeway with his ideas, I now think
it’s possible, seeing the this new side of him, that there
were likely things Rove would’ve wanted to do during Pres.
Bush’s term that were rejected.
Pres. Bush is guided by a different star.
LOL ...
Either that, or we're just getting OLD, onyx! ;*)
Agree 100%. Beautifully stated. Rove is a political animal. Bush is a leader and a patriot.
And I absolutely love your use of the word 'most evolved' to describe him (Even though I'm a creationist. :). A cut above, for sure.
And that, I think, is why he is so hated by those who just don't 'get it.'
I probably should have said self-evolved. ;)
The haters are the losers; history will tell
the story, as will our grandchildren.
Get off your high horse. I suppose you think trying to mischaracterize my views as leftist is being intelligent and mature.
As a Christian who believes very strongly in Reformed doctrine and the Sovereignty of God, I know very well that every leader is put in place by God’s will. This includes both the good ones and the bad ones.
My position is that GW Bush would probably never have been elected to anything had not his father been the former President of the United States. He didn’t get where he was primarily on his own intelligence, leadership skills, communication skills, etc., but rather on his family name and the social and political connections that came with it.
My unfavorable view of Bush as president is because I think he was too liberal. He did not veto a single spending bill his entire first term. He funded embryonic stem cell research. And although the vast bulk of the blame goes to Barney Frank and the Democrats who ran Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Bush also spoke out for and encouraged giving mortgages to low income families who had no business buying homes.
He muddled along with a Republican Congress for six years and then because of both his and their ineptitude the Democrats took Congress and the country went straight into the toilet.
Now you can either agree or disagree with my assesments but to imply that I’m a leftist for holding these views is truly ridiculous. But I guess it’s hard for someone who describes himself as a “W fan” to be objective and not get personal over criticism of his hero.
Thanks for clearing up what you really thought. Try avoiding dopey BDS posts in the future if you want rational conservatives to take you seriously.
Now my mature final words to you are "So there."
But sometimes I think they just like to be angry. It must be in their DNA or something.
To have this honorable man as their object of scorn.....to go well out of their way to say ridiculous, mindless, stupid things against him........is so beyond rational that I almost feel sorry for them.
Almost.
Ya know, as Rush says, and many of us have been
saying about life generally, for years
it is what it is
We’re not going to change it.
Try avoiding using God’s Sovereignty to dismiss any legitimate analysis of why any certain even occured.
I guess that’s why I added the flippant “so there” to the end of my response to you. Of course nothing happens outside God’s sovereign will, but I see it as rather mindless to just play the Sovereignty card in a debate as to why something worked out the way it did. For example, if in analyzing the results of the ‘92 election one stated that the reason Bill Clinton became president was because of Ross Perot running as a third candidate, it would be a mindless response if someone said, “No, he was elected because it was God’s will” even though technically that is true.
“There are a dozen other Republican choices who would have at least brought the same exact numbers. This is not a good argument to proceed into.”
No one could or can currently bring in the people and cash that Palin commands.
Thanks for that post, Al. I think that Gillespie is a fraud. I do not know if he was actually trashing Palin to the Politico, but it sounds like something he might have said. In an interview with PBS in 2005, linked below, he is waxing eloquent on the “pendulum swings” in politics when he blurts out his littel nugget:
“So how do you get that message [across to the people]? ... How did it happen? Tell me the story.
... I think it happened partly as a result of their party moving left. Politics swings like a pendulum. Our party may have swung too far right at various times.”
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/architect/interviews/gillespie.html
Exactly when has our party swung too far to the right? Certainly not in my lifetime. Not Goldwater. Maybe it was Coolidge. /sarc/. Let me translate it for everyone’s benefit: IT WAS REAGAN.
If there is any doubt about it, let me refer you to the great anthology of the Reagan Revolution, Rendezvous with Destiny, by true Reaganite Craig Shirley, who states in no uncertain terms:
“In 2003 George W. Bush’s handpicked chairman of the Republican National Committee, Ed Gillespie, attended an editorial meeting of the Manchester Union-Leader. Afterward, the paper wrote that Gillespie “said in no uncertain terms that the days of Reaganesque Republican railings against the expansion of the federal government are over...The people want expanded entitlement programs and a federal government that attends to their every desire, no matter how frivolous? Then that’s what the Republican Party wants, too.”
— Rendezvous With Destiny, page 597
The Cato Institute confirms the quote as well:
http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v25n6/crane.pdf
Did Gillespie slam Palin in Politico as he did the Reaganite GOP? I have no idea. But he certainly could have. I have no more reason to believe him than Politico. In fact, his previous utterances evincing at least indifference, if not outright hostility to Reaganism lend credence to the Politico article (although they-—Politco, that is—are serial liars).
Palin has a fight in front of her, no doubt about it. And she has a fight behind her as well. The people in the GOP who sabotaged Sharron Angle, Christine O’Donnell, and (are trying, as we speak, to steal the election from) Joe Miller are the same ones who will try to destroy Palin, now if possible, but after she wins the nomination, if necessary. They want to keep control of the GOP and if it means ceding the White House to Barack Obama for another four year, that is a price they are willing to pay. The question every conservative must ask himself or herself is: Is this a price I am willing to pay?
We must be prepared to meet the Establishment and expose them at every turn for the frauds and backbiters that they are. We need to make the Roves, Gillespies and Fortis and their ilk feel, rhetorically and polemically speaking, that hell isn’t half a mile off.
One more reason to think it was old Scott is that, if you remember, he was a distant family friend, who milked that for all it was worth.
Crist is the reason Crist is toast. And the Tea Party. Bush raised taxes, increased government and is a RINO. No Mo Bushes. I did not work my butt off for another Bush.
No you're not. The second gulf war stemmed directly from Saddam's failure to comply with the cease fire agreement. It was Saddam's fault, not America's fault.
You didn't offer any legitimate analysis. It was sheer BDS nonsense. And your further comments indicated that your political and personal bias against President Bush (whether from the left or from the right) was stronger than your Scriptural understanding about why President Bush was leading us in 2001.
I'm sorry but, even though you're now feebly attempting to back off your initial dopey post, I'm not interested in debating you. Perhaps sometime we can have a legitimate discussion of this issue, but for now your first post and your subsequent "so there" dismissed any possibility of rational debate.
Have a good evening.
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