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To: ClearCase_guy
I just think that allowing deficit spending IS the cause. You think deficit spending is unavoidable and that it should be facilitated by Republicans by raising the debt ceiling.

You got it totally wrong. I believe that we need to balance our budget and stop deficit spending. But you cannot do that overnight. There has to be a long term plan and an organizede appraoch. What you want to do is childish and counterproductive. Shutting down the government will put pressure on the Reps, not the Dems.

28 posted on 11/04/2010 12:16:55 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
There has to be a long term plan and an organized appraoch.

It's not at all clear to me how that conversation begins. I've been waiting for it to begin for a good 30 years. Two years of trillion dollar deficits tell me that some folks have no interest in this topic.

I'll concede that I've been describing an unrealistic approach -- but seriously: How do you expect to initiate a realistic conversation about deficit reduction? The Democrats aren't going to participate. I say that based on 30 years of observation.

The position I've been arguing for? It's unrealistic. There. I said it.
The position that you seem to support? That we need to agree on an organized approach? Exactly what can you say that tells that this is a realistic approach?

Anyone reading our interchange would say that I'm crazy and that you are far more reasonable. But I would maintain that both of our positions are crazy. Yours just sounds more level-headed.

To be very clear: We clearly want the same thing. I just don't see how this country gets there.

29 posted on 11/04/2010 12:26:02 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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