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1 posted on 11/03/2010 2:15:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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In response to a direct question on the subject, this afternoon, Mr. Obama hemmed and hawed and circumlocuted and never quite got around to disavowing the EPA’s plan to impose Cap&Tax by Regulatory Fiat.....


2 posted on 11/03/2010 2:23:12 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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Not to mention a total lack of anything regarding a campaign promoting prop 23 on the air, in print, or elsewhere. The campaign was completely one-sided and saturated, and full of lies and fabrications by the anti-23 people.


3 posted on 11/03/2010 2:25:06 PM PDT by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
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Should government subsidize renewable energy sources such as wind, solar and ethanol?

4 posted on 11/03/2010 2:29:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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The Orange County Register reported:

Cover-up taints costly diesel policy

A year ago, high officials of the California Air Resources Board learned that the author of a statistical study on diesel soot effects had falsified his academic credentials.

The researcher, Hien Tran, acknowledged the deception and agreed to be demoted, but after his data were given another peer review, they remained the basis of highly controversial regulations that will cost owners of trucks, buses and other diesel-powered machinery millions of dollars to upgrade their engines. The Tran study concluded that diesel “particulate matter” was responsible for about 1,000 additional deaths each year.

Now more fallout from that “landmark diesel law” comes last month:

BREAKING: SFO Chronicle says “Faulty science behind state’s landmark diesel law” – an error of 340%

I have to ask: Ms. Nichols, do you have any idea of what you or your agency is doing? Because I gotta tell you, CARB looks wholly incompetent from this vantage point.

h/t to Russ Steele at NC Media Watch

5 posted on 11/03/2010 2:32:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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She’s perpetrating a fraud and should be in jail.

RICO anyone?


7 posted on 11/03/2010 2:44:44 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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Mary Nichols was a key player in mandating MTBE in gasoline.

She should be in jail.

8 posted on 11/03/2010 2:49:16 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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Robert M. Marshall says:

November 3, 2010 at 1:02 pm

Carl Pope put it succinctly: “It tells me that the future of California has arrived,” the Sierra Club chairman told me on election night. “Once you create a clean energy economy, people will not let it go.”
This is the quote that tells the story. They won’t let go… no matter what. Expect to hear from the new governor in a couple months asking Obama, Harry Reid, and the newly elected Republican House for a little help balancing the CA budget. Brother can you spare a trillion. Meanwhile that “green economy” starts looking for a location where they can operate without government interferance, like China, India, or New Jersey.

9 posted on 11/03/2010 2:52:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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Jeremy says:

November 3, 2010 at 1:25 pm

CARB and the California Coastal Commission form what is basically a shadow government within California. Their whole purpose is directed towards stopping development whether they’ll admit it or not. There’s no compromise with them, you simply comply with their wishes, period. They do not work to find any compromise between the needs of developers/employers and the needs of the environment they simply tell you that the environment cannot be disturbed and your project is shot down. They do not answer to the voters. They are barely restrained by the elected representatives, if at all. They use everything at their disposal to make you look like someone who burns piles of tires every day if you complain to the media. They’re basically California’s environmental dictators. And no, I do not think that is hyperbole. There is no compromise with a dictator, there is no compromise with CARB or the CCC. They simply do not work with developers to reach effective modifications to plans that enable the project to go forward, they only find reasons to block the whole thing.

So yeah, it’s not surprising she would say that, she comprises the only political body in California that answers to no one, and has no shortage of deep-pocketed supporters within the state. This state is slowly turning into a “for the wealthy only” state, as the wealthy here seem to delight in making it impossible for a working-class to exist.

11 posted on 11/03/2010 2:57:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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arrogant effete snobs

I didn’t vote for them. Did you?


12 posted on 11/03/2010 3:04:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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And how is “Clean Tech” doing in Mary Nichols’s “Green” California?

http://gigaom.com/cleantech/solyndra-to-close-factory-layoff-dozens/

Not so good.


17 posted on 11/03/2010 3:42:54 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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Did she tell you that little Billie Gates sent $600,000 to defeat this measure and screw his Microsloth users in the late great state of California???

and BTW there was a book by that title back before my hair turned a handsome shade of gray/grey.


19 posted on 11/03/2010 4:39:38 PM PDT by tubebender
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“They didn’t know who they were messing with,” said Mary Nichols

BTW, she's right. The people who think environmental regulation is all about ideology or "a good thing but just too expensive" without understanding who is making money on it are doomed to lose. Unless we expose the corrupt money trail behind carbon trading, "green energy," and the rest, there is no getting the public's attention.

We have to show that it is corrupt, incompetent, and environmentally destructive. It's not that hard to do.

20 posted on 11/03/2010 4:46:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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From the article:
"But, as we’ve seen, the argument about global warming, AB32, and Prop 23 isn’t about science, it’s about emotions, icons, power, elitism, and money. Lots of money."

That sums it up very well.
23 posted on 11/03/2010 5:47:57 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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Politics in California is about as corrupt as it gets in the US. Whitman nanny-gate, mean Texas Oil Companies, shipping HP jobs over seas and illegals voting. If Whitman or Fiorina had been conservatives we would have seen something similar to the Strip Club Gate that felled Herchinson. California is becoming Mexico. We will literally have an elite rich class ruling a bunch of peasants getting shot up by the gangs that rebel against the rich elites. Business climate in Kalifornia collapsed this year and gets worse every day. Nobody in the middle class has any money. The middle class is all leaving. Non-corrupt businesses are leaving. The good news is the rest of the nation can use failed Kalifornia as an example of what not to do.
24 posted on 11/03/2010 5:51:16 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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31 posted on 11/04/2010 12:21:47 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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Aren’t Mary Nichols and Jerry Brown both investors in the Indonesian oil monopoly created by CARB ruling?


35 posted on 11/04/2010 11:19:20 AM PDT by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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