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It's official: Olin ammo production to Mississippi (Union drives 800 jobs out of Illinois)
St. Louis Post Disgrace ^ | November 3, 2010 | STEVE GIEGERICH

Posted on 11/03/2010 2:01:35 PM PDT by Second Amendment First

The Olin Corp. announced Wednesday that it will suspend production of centerfire ammunition at its plant in East Alton and re-locate the manufacturing operation to Oxford, Miss.

The move comes less than 24 hours after members of the union representing over Olin 800 workers rejected concessions that would have allowed them to keep their jobs.

"Our focus always has been on ensuring that we continue producing high-quality products for our customers in an increasingly competitive market," president and CEO Joseph D. Rupp said in a prepared statement.

"While I am disappointed that employees represented by the International Association of Machinists chose to reject a proposal that would have allowed us to remain competitive in East Alton, we look forward to expanding our existing operations in Mississippi."

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammunition; banglist; costello; dickdurbin; durbin; iam; illinois; jerrycostello; mississippi; olin; oxford; patquinn; quinn; unioncorruption; unions; winchester
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To: Second Amendment First

I don’t know why there are so many firearms related industries located in anti-gun states. Massachusetts has several, Connecticut has several, Illinois has a couple. It seems to me that they should tell the high tax, anti-gun states to go to hell.


141 posted on 11/04/2010 5:12:39 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Joe Boucher

All of the sugar companies were subsidized. Once the organic soil had be metabolized by bacteria, and gone up into the atmosphere as CO2 & H2o, the state of FloriDUH paid them off for the basically bare rock AND allowed them to farm the last bits of soil until they, too, disappear.

“My country ‘tis of thee,
Sweet land of subsidy!”


142 posted on 11/04/2010 5:23:05 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Second Amendment First
"It's crazy; who ever heard of a second chance?" asked one worker, who declined to provide her name.

"I voted no because it's still not fair," she added, citing Olin's profit margin and salaries paid to company executives.

"If I do, I do, and if I don't, I don't," Mary Welte said of keeping her position at the plant.

Several machinists said they believe Olin is bluffing and won't follow through on the proposed expansion of its plant in Oxford.

And they called the Mississippi folks stupid...
143 posted on 11/04/2010 5:27:47 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: ridesthemiles

My stepson’s first job was at a unionized grocery store at the minimum wage. After union dues, the pay was less than minimum wage.

Cool!


144 posted on 11/04/2010 5:30:46 AM PDT by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: word_warrior_bob

Dang, she’s hot!


145 posted on 11/04/2010 5:47:38 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: NerdDad
Thank you, you yankee union idiots.

LMAO!

146 posted on 11/04/2010 5:56:20 AM PDT by houeto ("You know, I actually believe my own bullsh_t," --- BHO)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Oxford, eh? Makes you wish Ole Miss hadn’t changed their name nickname from Rebels...

They didn't.

147 posted on 11/04/2010 6:02:45 AM PDT by houeto ("You know, I actually believe my own bullsh_t," --- BHO)
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To: from occupied ga

You caught me. Unlike some, I don’t believe tariffs will fix everything (or anything).


148 posted on 11/04/2010 6:27:45 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I like to think John Moses Browning understood the value of a dollar and his pricing target for the Superposed would appear to attest to that. That gun was designed to be an O/U of quality that the common man could afford.

My trapper — who competes at college national championship level in trap, skeet, and sporting clays and who sometimes buys the ammo for his team — tells me that there is no substantial difference between shotgun cartridges from the point of view of the gun except for stuff like steel shot which would ruin my 1960 Browning's barrels. My gunsmith tells me the same thing and adds that the high brass cartridges don't pattern as well as the ordinary (less expensive) 2 3/4 inch 3 dr. eq. 1 1/8 oz #8 shot cartridges. Finally, I've seen knowledgable and wealthy shooters use value packs with their Perazzis, Hollands, and other premium shotguns. I don't think they became wealthy by squandering their money on frills.

The only difference I can discern between range ammo is that the green Remington stuff has a distinct sulfurous odor that some may prefer. I don't and I buy Federal or Winchester, which ever is available. Given this news story about Olin, I'll probably favor the bright red Winchester cartridges.

Anyway, it's nice to have choices.

149 posted on 11/04/2010 6:37:06 AM PDT by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: VeniVidiVici
If I could reach through this screen and smack you upside the head, I'd do it. Damn, I need another cup of coffee. I just spilled my last one.
150 posted on 11/04/2010 6:38:18 AM PDT by houeto ("You know, I actually believe my own bullsh_t," --- BHO)
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To: Mobties

The biggest reason I shoot the AA’s is for their reloadability. When you can get 10-12 repeats out of a hull, that’s pretty good (expecially when you consider the price of .410 and 28). When I reload the purple Fed hulls in 16, you’re lucky to get 2-3.

Also, you can tailor your loads for the game.


151 posted on 11/04/2010 6:47:19 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: Mobties

The biggest reason I shoot the AA’s is for their reloadability. When you can get 10-12 repeats out of a hull, that’s pretty good (especially when you consider the price of .410 and 28). When I reload the purple Fed hulls in 16, you’re lucky to get 2-3.

Also, you can tailor your loads for the game.


152 posted on 11/04/2010 6:47:55 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: DarthVader

But the blue states are too dishonest to admit that their actions drive business out and when they move to red states having better business climates they demand that the red states behave more like the blue states.


153 posted on 11/04/2010 6:48:09 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Unlike some, I don’t believe tariffs will fix everything (or anything).

I wholeheartedly agree.

154 posted on 11/04/2010 6:50:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: GladesGuru

GladesGuru,
It sickens me as I fly from the Stuart Area to say Everglades City while watching them burn off the sugar cane fields.
Where is the e.p.a. on this? Paid off?
South Florida Water management does nothing but provide water for large growers of cane and citrus. Large polluters.


155 posted on 11/04/2010 7:13:40 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Get out of our house and take your big ass wookie bride with ya)
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To: Lurker

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term in jail. The penalty shall be determined by the Unification Board, such Board to be appointed by the
Bureau of Economic Planning and National Resources. All persons reaching the age of twenty-one shall
report to the Unification Board, which shall assign them to where, in its opinion, their services will best
serve the interests of the nation.
“Point Two. All industrial, commercial, manufacturing and business establishments of any nature
whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit nor
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establishment and of any and all of their property.
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156 posted on 11/04/2010 8:25:19 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

I’ve always loved that saying.


157 posted on 11/04/2010 8:28:44 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Second Amendment First

Unions are morons. They are communists looking to get something they do not deserve while ignoring competitive markets. They want government to give them something for free like the profits of a company. Well, they just lost their jobs and a major economic powerhouse for the local area due to their own stupidity.


158 posted on 11/04/2010 10:11:02 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Joe Boucher

“Things are not always what they seem, Grasshopper” - from some fatuous TV program, but it sounds good.

Actually, the Everglades is a fire adapted habitat, and seems to have been such for a very long time.


159 posted on 11/04/2010 10:53:11 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: houeto
If I could reach through this screen and smack you upside the head, I'd do it. Damn, I need another cup of coffee. I just spilled my last one.

Well, the snake *looked* like Hoffa :-)

160 posted on 11/04/2010 3:49:35 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Defund National Peoples Radio!! Democrats are for free speech. Just not for you.)
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