Posted on 11/02/2010 1:42:16 PM PDT by olivia3boys
Please assist: how do you recommend I vote on these two propositions (CA redistricting) today?
It sure would be helpful if you posted them here before asking people to voice their opinion of it.
I think we can trust Tom McClintock on these issues. He gives his recommendations and reasons here.
http://www.tommcclintock.com/blog/mcclintock-ballot-recommendations
We at our household all went with him.
I voted Yes on 20 and No on 27, if i remember correctly.
Vote YES on 20 to give the redistricting commission jurisdiction over congressional redistricting.
Vote NO on 27 to hand it all back to the Democrats.
I voted Yes on 20 and No on 27, if i remember correctly with the help of Tom McClintocks recommendations.
Tom McClintock solid conservative!
Yes on 20. No on 27. But await confirmation from other freepers (that’s from memory)
Here’s Tom McClintock’s picks, which I found helpful:
Prop 19: When Worlds Collide. NO. If this simply allowed people to cultivate and smoke marijuana themselves and left the rest of us alone, it would be worth considering. But it goes much further and provides that no person shall be
discriminated against or denied any right or privilege for pot use, inviting a lawsuit every time an employer tries to
require a drug test, for example. If you want to smoke pot in your own world, I dont care. But dont bring it into mine.
Prop 20: Congressional Redistricting. YES. This finishes the work we began in 2008 to get redistricting decisions away from self-interested state legislators and into the hands of a bi-partisan commission. The original reform omitted Congressional districts this simply adds them.
Prop 21: Highway Robbery. NO. Right now, state park users pay a nominal fee that helps pay for upkeep, assuring that those who use our state parks help pay for them. This measure ends the day-user fee and shifts the cost to the rest of us by imposing an $18 per car tax increase
whether we use the parks or not. Stealing money from highway
travelers used to be called highway robbery. Now its called Proposition 21.
Prop 22: Hands Off Our Money. YES. This takes a giant leap toward restoring local government independence and protecting our transportation taxes by prohibiting state raids on local and transportation funds. Local governments are hardly paragons of virtue, but local tax
revenues should remain local.
Prop 23: Liberation from the Environmental Left. YES. In 2006, Sacramentos rocket-scientists enacted AB 32, imposing draconian restrictions on carbon dioxide emissions (yes, thats the stuff you exhale). They promised to save the planet from global warming and open a cornucopia of new jobs. Since then, Californias unemployment rate has shot far beyond the national unemployment rate and the earth
has continued to warm and cool as it has for billions of years. Prop 23 merely holds the Environmental Left to its promise: it suspends AB 32 until unemployment stabilizes at or below its pre-AB 32 level.
Prop 24: Because Taxes Just Arent High Enough. NO. This is a predictable entry by the public employee unions to impose an additional $1.7 billion tax on businesses. The problem, of course, is that businesses dont pay business taxes we do. Business taxes can only be paid in three ways: by us as consumers (through higher prices), by us as employees (through lower wages) and by us as investors (through
lower earnings on our 401(k)s).
Prop 25: Out of the Frying Pan and Into the Fire. NO. This changes the 2/3 vote requirement for the state budget to a simple majority a reform I have long supported. Experience has shown that the current 2/3 vote requirement for the budget does not restrain spending and it utterly blurs accountability. But such a reform MUST repair the 2/3 vote requirement for all tax increases and restore constitutional spending and borrowing limits. Without these provisions, Prop. 25 would be a disaster for taxpayers and a recipe for bankruptcy.
Prop 26: Calling a Tax a Tax. YES. Under the infamous Sinclair Paint decision, virtually any tax may be increased by majority vote as long as it is called a fee, gutting the 2/3 vote requirement in the state constitution to raise taxes. Prop. 26 rescinds Sinclair Paint, restores the
Constitution, and calls a tax a tax.
Prop 27: OMG. NO. Want to go back to the days when politicians drew their own district lines, literally choosing their own voters? This will get us there.
Yes on 20, No on 27.
Some mailers have gone out from so-called Republicans directing the opposite votes. Don’t be fooled.
This takes re-destricting out of the hands of legislators.
I can confirm that. 20 gives the line-drawing for the HR districts to the commission that draws the state Senate and ASSembly districts. 27 would hand the whole process back to the ASSembly, which is controlled by the Dems.
So, yes on 20 and NO on 27.
Yes on 20; no on 27.
You gave the wrong link — your link is the recommendations for the primary, dated May 2010.
Here is the link to his recommendations for this election (dated Oct 28, 2010):
http://www.tommcclintock.com/blog/tom-mcclintock-on-the-propositions
Looks like 20 and 27 are the ones related to redistricting.
He recommends 20: YES; and 27: NO.
Thank you all very much; I will follow McClintock’s advice; too bad he couldn’t be our governor. I can’t believe we might be about to elect Jerry Brown as governor, Jim Jones’ (aka Jonestown homicidal maniac and brainwasher) good buddy!
NO on 27.
Prop 27 is absolutely evil! It would hand back the power to draw legislative districts to the politicians, who have gerrymandered the state of California into a permanent Democratic majority. Soros is a big contributor to it. It MUST be defeated if conservatism is going to have a chance of surviving in the state.
Gerrymandering is a great evil; incumbents of both parties shouldn’t have a lock on re-election. This is one of the problems why career politicians are such loathsome creatures.
DITTO that. 20 yes; 27 no
I rec’d that mailer. Recommended R’s for candidates and then recommended all the bad choices for the props.
I did the same.
Yes on 20
No on 27
Yes on 20, No on 27
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