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California's two redistricting propositions?

Posted on 11/02/2010 1:42:16 PM PDT by olivia3boys

Please assist: how do you recommend I vote on these two propositions (CA redistricting) today?


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Please assist: how do you recommend I vote on these two propositions (CA redistricting) today?
1 posted on 11/02/2010 1:42:19 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: olivia3boys

It sure would be helpful if you posted them here before asking people to voice their opinion of it.


2 posted on 11/02/2010 1:44:38 PM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: olivia3boys

I think we can trust Tom McClintock on these issues. He gives his recommendations and reasons here.

http://www.tommcclintock.com/blog/mcclintock-ballot-recommendations

We at our household all went with him.


3 posted on 11/02/2010 1:44:38 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: olivia3boys

I voted Yes on 20 and No on 27, if i remember correctly.


4 posted on 11/02/2010 1:45:55 PM PDT by sappy (criminalibs)
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To: olivia3boys

Vote YES on 20 to give the redistricting commission jurisdiction over congressional redistricting.

Vote NO on 27 to hand it all back to the Democrats.


5 posted on 11/02/2010 1:46:26 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: olivia3boys

I voted Yes on 20 and No on 27, if i remember correctly with the help of Tom McClintocks recommendations.


6 posted on 11/02/2010 1:46:28 PM PDT by sappy (criminalibs)
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To: Persevero

Tom McClintock solid conservative!


7 posted on 11/02/2010 1:47:12 PM PDT by notaliberal
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To: olivia3boys

Yes on 20. No on 27. But await confirmation from other freepers (that’s from memory)


8 posted on 11/02/2010 1:47:30 PM PDT by eureka! (Tea Party = Real Americans' ACORN --the ground game will save us.)
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To: olivia3boys

Here’s Tom McClintock’s picks, which I found helpful:

Prop 19: When Worlds Collide. NO. If this simply allowed people to cultivate and smoke marijuana themselves and left the rest of us alone, it would be worth considering. But it goes much further and provides that “no person shall be … discriminated against or denied any right or privilege” for pot use, inviting a lawsuit every time an employer tries to
require a drug test, for example. If you want to smoke pot in your own world, I don’t care. But don’t bring it into mine.

Prop 20: Congressional Redistricting. YES. This finishes the work we began in 2008 to get redistricting decisions away from self-interested state legislators and into the hands of a bi-partisan commission. The original reform omitted Congressional districts – this simply adds them.
Prop 21: Highway Robbery. NO. Right now, state park users pay a nominal fee that helps pay for upkeep, assuring that those who use our state parks help pay for them. This measure ends the day-user fee and shifts the cost to the rest of us by imposing an $18 per car tax increase
whether we use the parks or not. Stealing money from highway
travelers used to be called “highway robbery.” Now it’s called “Proposition 21.”

Prop 22: Hands Off Our Money. YES. This takes a giant leap toward restoring local government independence and protecting our transportation taxes by prohibiting state raids on local and transportation funds. Local governments are hardly paragons of virtue, but local tax
revenues should remain local.

Prop 23: Liberation from the Environmental Left. YES. In 2006, Sacramento’s rocket-scientists enacted AB 32, imposing draconian restrictions on carbon dioxide emissions (yes, that’s the stuff you exhale). They promised to save the planet from “global warming” and open a cornucopia of new jobs. Since then, California’s unemployment rate has shot far beyond the national unemployment rate and the earth
has continued to warm and cool as it has for billions of years. Prop 23 merely holds the Environmental Left to its promise: it suspends AB 32 until unemployment stabilizes at or below its pre-AB 32 level.

Prop 24: Because Taxes Just Aren’t High Enough. NO. This is a predictable entry by the public employee unions to impose an additional $1.7 billion tax on businesses. The problem, of course, is that businesses don’t pay business taxes – we do. Business taxes can only be paid in three ways: by us as consumers (through higher prices), by us as employees (through lower wages) and by us as investors (through
lower earnings on our 401(k)’s).

Prop 25: Out of the Frying Pan and Into the Fire. NO. This changes the 2/3 vote requirement for the state budget to a simple majority – a reform I have long supported. Experience has shown that the current 2/3 vote requirement for the budget does not restrain spending and it utterly blurs accountability. But such a reform MUST repair the 2/3 vote requirement for all tax increases and restore constitutional spending and borrowing limits. Without these provisions, Prop. 25 would be a disaster for taxpayers and a recipe for bankruptcy.

Prop 26: Calling a Tax a Tax. YES. Under the infamous Sinclair Paint decision, virtually any tax may be increased by majority vote as long as it is called a “fee,” gutting the 2/3 vote requirement in the state constitution to raise taxes. Prop. 26 rescinds Sinclair Paint, restores the
Constitution, and calls a tax a tax.

Prop 27: OMG. NO. Want to go back to the days when politicians drew their own district lines, literally choosing their own voters? This will get us there.


9 posted on 11/02/2010 1:51:54 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: olivia3boys

Yes on 20, No on 27.

Some mailers have gone out from so-called Republicans directing the opposite votes. Don’t be fooled.

This takes re-destricting out of the hands of legislators.


10 posted on 11/02/2010 1:52:04 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: eureka!

I can confirm that. 20 gives the line-drawing for the HR districts to the commission that draws the state Senate and ASSembly districts. 27 would hand the whole process back to the ASSembly, which is controlled by the Dems.

So, yes on 20 and NO on 27.


11 posted on 11/02/2010 1:53:12 PM PDT by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
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To: Mr Inviso

Yes on 20; no on 27.


12 posted on 11/02/2010 1:54:23 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: Persevero; olivia3boys

You gave the wrong link — your link is the recommendations for the primary, dated May 2010.

Here is the link to his recommendations for this election (dated Oct 28, 2010):

http://www.tommcclintock.com/blog/tom-mcclintock-on-the-propositions

Looks like 20 and 27 are the ones related to redistricting.

He recommends 20: YES; and 27: NO.


13 posted on 11/02/2010 1:56:43 PM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: p. henry

Thank you all very much; I will follow McClintock’s advice; too bad he couldn’t be our governor. I can’t believe we might be about to elect Jerry Brown as governor, Jim Jones’ (aka Jonestown homicidal maniac and brainwasher) good buddy!


14 posted on 11/02/2010 1:57:05 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: olivia3boys
YES on 20, to extend the recent voter-approved redistricting procedures to include the Congressional districts.

NO on 27.

Prop 27 is absolutely evil! It would hand back the power to draw legislative districts to the politicians, who have gerrymandered the state of California into a permanent Democratic majority. Soros is a big contributor to it. It MUST be defeated if conservatism is going to have a chance of surviving in the state.

15 posted on 11/02/2010 1:58:35 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Deo volente

Gerrymandering is a great evil; incumbents of both parties shouldn’t have a lock on re-election. This is one of the problems why career politicians are such loathsome creatures.


16 posted on 11/02/2010 2:01:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: eureka!

DITTO that. 20 yes; 27 no


17 posted on 11/02/2010 2:24:59 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: La Enchiladita

I rec’d that mailer. Recommended R’s for candidates and then recommended all the bad choices for the props.


18 posted on 11/02/2010 2:26:59 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: sappy

I did the same.

Yes on 20
No on 27


19 posted on 11/02/2010 2:29:25 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: olivia3boys

Yes on 20, No on 27


20 posted on 11/02/2010 3:16:32 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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