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That angle of debate I can understand and agree with. That sure means that the "gay agenda" has a lot of awfully committed operatives not only at the organizing level, but also in the trenches. Most Americans are too lazy to get behind such an effort.

Now that I'm older and maybe wiser, I remember the counselors in summer camp who I now realize were gay. I remember coworkers, friends, and neighbors who were gay. None of them were making their lifestyle an agenda to promote to anyone. Those are the life experiences I have based my opinions on. Maybe today's gay hoard is different? That may very well be. But of those I identify with, I found and continue to find their association to be something worthy of friendship.

There is an agenda. Believe it. To pervert the US Military is the Holy Grail of the queerification of the USA.

I remember the counselors in summer camp who I now realize were gay.

As you reminisced fondly through the delusion of your liberal past HOW exactly did you conclude your "counselors in summer camp" preferred and or chose to engage in homosexual sex?

every post you write it seems is taken from the talking points of the left wing nuts . How the hell do you know they were homosexuals as a kid back over 20 years ago? BTW They're not gay they're homosexuals unless you're a lefty nut or a homosexual yourself. Homosexuals are all about sex and getting off with the same sex. If you had served then you would know about survival training etc. You think men want to serve in a combat unit with a homo officer who likes one guy and will not put that guy in harms way while others have to go out on point? You think guys will get back from their patrol after seeing a friend killed and then thye have to see two puffs going at it. Do you have any idea what will happen? No you don't. Will their be seperate bunks, bases for these queers? Will homo officers put pressure on a young guy who has just joined? Will there now be homo parties on base? I could go on and on but yoiu have no frigging idea. Think about this though. Two men ware sticking each of their dicks up each other to get off sexually and you think they're normal and should be serving? If you you need help just as much as the homo's you defend.

Jim Robinson later on this thread:

“No homos in the military. Period!!”

and

“You can either leave off the homosexual agenda or you can move on. The choice is yours.”

Even if he didn’t address those comments directly to either of you, they still apply.