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California air board to unveil cap-and-trade program for CO2
Sacramento Bee ^ | 10/29/10 | Rick Daysog

Posted on 10/29/2010 7:59:42 AM PDT by SmithL

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"Because of the state of the economy, to go to a large auction quickly just isn't realistic," ARB Chairwoman Mary Nichols said in a legislative hearing earlier this month.

Translation: "We're not going to soak the energy industry directly yet, but we will let politically favored businesses soak those energy businesses instead. That way we can say we didn't tank the economy, someone else did."

21 posted on 10/29/2010 10:09:36 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: eyeamok
ALL PAYMENTS FROM ANY GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO MADE IN GOLD AND SILVER COIN

I love it. Other benefits: no more "Green" ink; mining gold and silver requires loads of dirty fossil fuel.

22 posted on 10/29/2010 10:12:31 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: darkwing104

To work at a refinery? I gotta believe that they drug test
pre-employment and randomly.

Fewer people than you think smoke weeds in Calif.


23 posted on 10/29/2010 10:30:35 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: bestintxas

this is all political BS!! I’m sick of it. Calif as of right now has more communists in the state govt then New York. Vote them the hell out! Go to commieblasters.com and see who all the known members are. They can stick their cap and tax where the sun don’t shine. Let’s get someone in office who will strip all of these ridiculous regulations,taxes,and laws away. Stop paralyzing this country.


24 posted on 10/29/2010 11:33:57 AM PDT by watchdogmom
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I like this idea real well.


25 posted on 10/29/2010 11:36:38 AM PDT by watchdogmom
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26 posted on 10/29/2010 12:16:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: SmithL
Cap and tax at the state level: Cap tax revenues and trade members of the productive segment of society for illegals, welfare cases and extreme radical earth shoe / granola types.

Arizona and Nevada thank you, Kalifornastan! We'll trade you as many as you like!

27 posted on 10/29/2010 12:40:47 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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What are these people doing? There’s no rational basis whatsoever for this kind of regulation. Global warming theory is based on simplistic climate models developed over 50 years ago that have never been properly validated. There has been a breakdown in the scientific peer review process of this theory during the last 30 years. The breakdown was probably caused by the great ideological popularity of environmentalism within academia.

There’s no real evidence supporting global warming theory, either theoretical evidence or empirical evidence in the temperature data. The whole theory of man-made global warming is a hoax that violates energy balance equations, and that has been proven by a number of outstanding scientists. CO2 regulation is a case of environmentalist baby boomers gone wild and in love with government power. It’s a case of lawyers in love with themselves, each other, and liberal politicians. CO2 regulation is completely unjustified and unnecessary, and this could end up being the final event that makes California run out of cash and pushes the state into de facto bankruptcy.

What is going on in this country? When did liberal college professors and environmentalists go completely insane and forget how to do objective scientific research?


28 posted on 10/29/2010 12:55:17 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (He pays his mortgage, took no TARP money, and hasn't dumped a dollar of toxic assets on taxpayers.)
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When did liberal college professors and environmentalists go completely insane and forget how to do objective scientific research?

Maybe when they found out how well it pays. Follow the grant money (it WAS yours after all, before it was taxed away!)

29 posted on 10/29/2010 1:13:44 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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http://killcarb.org/20090928-DrBill.html


30 posted on 10/30/2010 1:50:34 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (I am having the best Depression, ever!)
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From Wattenburg’s letter on KillCarb.org

Background on CARB:

Here are the biggest official liars on the state payroll. The CARB main mouthpiece, lawyer Mary Nichols, says that owners of cars and trucks are the biggest polluters. No, she and CARB are covering up the biggest polluters in the state and the country. These are the fossil fuel power plants that spew out more than a 100 million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year. And the amount is growing each year as the state must generate or buy more filthy coal and natural gas power each year to keep up with the growing population. She and the other enviro-frauds with power in the state (the Green Gestapo) do not want to reduce – or even mention — the power plant pollution. So, they concentrate on punishing the sheep, the ten million working folks who must commute to work and the trucking industry that sustains our economy.

Look at the fines that CARB brags about and imposes on people. Not a one is against a filthy power plant spewing out 3 to 8 million tons of pollution and CO2 into the air each year. And there are over 40 of these plants running at any time. They will not touch the big power companies that send millions in campaign contributions to the politicians in Sacramento — the legislators that promised to protect the working people before they were elected to office and given a free ride at taxpayer expense. The legislators turn their backs on the people and let the 1000 or more CARB bureaucrats collect whatever money they want to pay their salaries. All in the name of protecting the environment.

Keep in mind that these same CARB frauds, attorney Mary Nichols in particular, created the biggest pollution of the state for over ten years when they stupidly put the untested MTBE additive in the gasoline and forced the working people of California to pay over 20 billion dollars extra to poison themselves from 1996 to 2004. The California EPA became the California Environmental Pollution Agency.

Stupid CARB regulations like the MTBE that do nothing for the environment are the reason you pay $0.50 a gallon more for gasoline in California than the national average. Most CARB regulations only collect money to pay the salaries of the CARB frauds on the state payroll.

Where is the Attorney General of California? He is supposed to protect the citizens and prosecute polluters. He knows that a state agency just across the street committed the biggest crime against the environment in California in history, the MTBE poisoning of the state and ground water you are drinking. But he does not even investigate the very real possibility that they, CARB, are again defrauding the public that he is sworn to protect. Instead, the Attorney General brags that he is using his hundreds of lawyers on the state payroll to prosecute the little guys, small businesses and individuals who contribute less that 1% of what CARB calls pollution.

It seems that everyone but the Attorney General knows that a so-called top scientist on the CARB staff is a fraud. He did not get a PhD from UC Davis. He bought his degree from a mail order house. He is the one who justified the disastrous regulations against diesel engines and trucks in the state. Top scientists say he is wrong. There is no proven or even significant danger from diesel engine exhaust compared to many other much bigger sources of pollution that CARB refuses to acknowledge. But CARB is steaming ahead with their diesel engine regulations that will cripple the economy of California — just as CARB persisted with the MTBE in the gasoline for ten years in spite of warnings from good scientists that MTBE was itself a major pollutant and a poison.


31 posted on 10/30/2010 1:51:53 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (I am having the best Depression, ever!)
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John and ken show at KFI been taking a lot about this CARB board fraud & the phoney PhD .


32 posted on 11/08/2010 9:07:29 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: SmithL
Related thread:

Pioneering Cap-and-Trade Program to Fade into the Sunset

33 posted on 11/08/2010 9:12:42 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

34 posted on 11/08/2010 9:36:21 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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This is a perfect example of why I don’t vote anymore—Politicians will do whatever they want, whenever they want, whether or not the people want it or whether or not it will accomplish anything.


35 posted on 11/08/2010 9:40:16 AM PST by GSWarrior
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We need to hammer the public on this fraud. The schools and media have the sheeple so brainwashed about global warming, this is sure to be an uphill fight. Any rational view of CO2 shows it is a welcome plant food and not a toxic emission. The sheeple are so dumbed down now, they can’t tell the difference. CARB is flat dangerous. We have to get the message out somehow on the idiocy of controlling CO2.


36 posted on 11/08/2010 11:26:45 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (I am having the best Depression, ever!)
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