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No wonder colleges hike tuition when it means they get more Federal aid. Short of abolishing Pell grants and federal student loans entirely, one reform would be for the Federal government to calculate "financial need" based on a budget for tuition and room and board capped at say $20K. If a college chooses to charge more, it can do so, but the college and the student would need to come up with the extra money, not the Federal government.
1 posted on 10/28/2010 5:23:45 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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Hmmm, the schools are dependent on government money and the students are dependent on government money... What could possibly be the goal?


2 posted on 10/28/2010 5:33:50 AM PDT by hc87
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"students got $28 billion in Pell grants"


3 posted on 10/28/2010 5:34:00 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama go:nna take care o' me!)
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To: reaganaut1

The Times has this backwards. The artificial demand for college education predicated on the availability of federal assistance is why the tuitions are so high in the first place.


4 posted on 10/28/2010 5:36:13 AM PDT by Cosmo (Liberalism is for girls)
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Yeah, aid goes up, but not for everyone. We’re praying our sons find some scholarship assistance, because they’re sure not getting any financial aid based on “need”. Government meddling drives up the cost, but only compensates those it chooses as worthy.


5 posted on 10/28/2010 5:37:51 AM PDT by Think free or die
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College fees are high for eeeevvvviiiillll capitalist White rich privileged individuals and low for the poor downtrodden victimized underclass minorities.

Just another “transfer the wealth” scheme.


7 posted on 10/28/2010 5:42:45 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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Take a look at what public universities are paying Professors and administrators these days, its outrageous. Costs have been going up 8-10% per year for years, way beyond the rate of inflation. Lots of liberal pigs feeding at the trough.

http://www.collegiatetimes.com/databases/salaries


9 posted on 10/28/2010 5:46:29 AM PDT by centurion316
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Other than government I’m hard pressed to identify any other entity where the skyrocketing cost is less justified with respect to the quality of what it provides.


10 posted on 10/28/2010 5:46:41 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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I’d laugh if this wasn’t so damaging. The geniuses at the NYT have stumbled onto a truth—subsidy many times INCREASES prices. They could have written the exact same article about the housing market. Universities are a racket with their main purpose being to stick their snouts as deeply in the public trough as possible.


12 posted on 10/28/2010 5:49:08 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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Assimilating knowledge by going to a particular location and sitting in front of a talking instructor is a completely outdated mode of education.


14 posted on 10/28/2010 5:50:46 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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“fast-rising tuition costs have been accompanied by a huge increase in financial aid, which helped keep down the actual amount students and families pay.”

...part of this may be a CYA move by the schools...last year Senate hearings questioned continuing the tax exempt status of colleges.....their endowments/foundations were sitting on millions/billions of dollars....all tax free money, while they were jacking up costs to the kids and their families.


15 posted on 10/28/2010 5:53:27 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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The good news in the 2010 “Trends in College Pricing” and “Trends in Student Aid” reports is that fast-rising tuition costs have been accompanied by a huge increase in financial aid, which helped keep down the actual amount students and families pay.

Clearly the NYT writer is an economic illiterate to not grasp the pernicious looting of the taxpayer and unjust enrichment of the "educrat class" that is truly going on here...

16 posted on 10/28/2010 5:53:38 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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We have to ask why are tuition rates climbing at a rate of 8% a year. Much higher than the rate of inflation.
The answer is because they can. There is no check on their rates because the government is subsidizing the students who will pay.
Same thing is happening to housing rents. Section 8 will pay the rent so the landlords will charge hundreds more than they can get from renters not on Section 8. If Section 8 did not exist and the government didn't pay the rent then the landlords would have to lower the rent or not be able to find renters who can pay the higher costs.
17 posted on 10/28/2010 5:55:56 AM PDT by guardian_of_liberty (We must bind the Government with the Chains of the Constitution...)
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Doesn't hurt to say it again, the title is backwards.

The Tuition Aid Trap

Feds In The Classroom: How Big Government Corrupts, Cripples, and Compromises American Education

Taking Control of Spiraling College Costs

20 posted on 10/28/2010 6:28:45 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: reaganaut1

The college tuition bubble is exactly the same as the Health-care cost bubble.

The Gov’t is the catylyst for rising prices.


21 posted on 10/28/2010 6:35:51 AM PDT by PGR88
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“As College Fees Climb, Aid Does Too”

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22 posted on 10/28/2010 6:38:20 AM PDT by SeeSac
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"As College Fees Climb, Aid Does, Too."

The headline has the cause and effect backwards.

23 posted on 10/28/2010 7:04:56 AM PDT by sportutegrl (Why are they called Musketeers if they fight with swords?)
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To: ex-Texan

ex-Texan: what’s your predicition when the college bubble will pop? I think once the recession starts to end many colleges will implode. The future is low-cost internet education with online living certification. The timing is right for a certification website to sweep up marketshare. May the best website win.


24 posted on 10/28/2010 7:17:20 AM PDT by Reeses (Now is the autumn of our discontent.)
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That’s one thing I never understood. I work at a well-known university, and our ‘normal’ tuition for a year is $38,000. But, they’ve also raised tuition assistance. No family making under $80,000 is allowed to take a loan, and all loans are capped at $10,000 for the ‘academic career’, for all students. Basically, if you get in, and can’t afford it, you could essentially get a ‘free-ride’ scholarship based on need.

Of course, the original charter said that the education was free for all white residents, amended in the 60’s for all students, and then in the 80’s (I think) to start charging the students.


25 posted on 10/28/2010 8:37:17 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder (Nov 2nd, 2010 - The adults get home, and are back in charge)
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