Posted on 10/26/2010 3:25:12 PM PDT by AustralianConservative
Equality is the state religion. If equality demands we accept that there is no difference between same-sex and opposite sex relationships, then people who cannot accept that, who do not believe it is true, will become second-class citizens – tolerated perhaps, but only in a marginalised and stigmatised way.
We are already seeing the engine of state power being used to exclude traditional religious believers, especially from posts of cultural power – in the U.S. for example, graduate schools are now kicking out counselling students who say they cannot help gay couples maintain their relationships. They are willing to refer politely such couples to others – but that’s not good enough. “Discriminators” cannot be marriage counsellors. In England, courts are beginning to rule that Christians cannot foster or adopt children – because they might be gay and that might be bad for them. (Never mind the abundance of evidence that religion is in fact good for children).
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I suppose it could happen, but such a society would not last very long.
Thanks for posting that.
That Dennis Prager has a beautiful mind. I wonder if he writes poetry. :)
Homosexual relationships already take children away from their mothers (in the case of a male couple) and their fathers (in the case of lesbians). That the pro-homosexual marriage crowd doesn’t admit to this is either due to extreme denial or serious heartlessness.
By the way, this isn't "anti-gay": it works that way for heterosexual couples who practice anal and oral copulation, too.
Eh, count me out. :o/
Walt, I’m not sure if you were joking or not. Dennis Prager is a religious Jew. I have been listening to his radio program for about 7 or 8 years now. He is very knowledgeable about the Jewish faith and I have really learned a lot.
when he knows kids could be listening?
True. In the U.S. our laws are based on the laws of nature and God’s Laws—that is specifically written in the Declaration of Independence. It is there because the Founders adopted John Locke’s Theories who read Cicero who had stated that laws that go against Natural Law and God’s Law are unjust.
This idea of the pursuit of happiness is tied into the nature of man—that need for private property and biological relationships and those laws apply to the natural family—that a baby has the natural right to be raised by his biological parents is known to protect him in the best way possible from emotional and physical abuse.
That said, Marxism, of course, denies the nature of man and states it as evolving—always changing. Locke and the Founders said NO—the nature of man has never ever changed in the 2000 years of history they fervently studied.
Of course, Marxists don’t want you to understand and know history because then they can lie about everything and make such idiotic claims that homosexual behavior is genetic and not a fluid lifestyle—which has been always more connected to pagan orgies and no sexual restraint and pederasty.
It was the Jewish religion that developed the religious aspect of marriage first and sexual sin and which the Catholic Church continued. Aquinas aligned Catholic Theology to Natural Law Theory so fine tuned it to logic, reason and science to raise up the value of women in societies which give them worth which is unique in history—as the Christian religion always has made even the least among us, including lepers, have worth.
Catholic Theology directly led to rigorous intellectual studies and led directly to Copernicus, Gallileo and Newton and Keppler. Christian ideology which was based on Aquinas Natural Law Theory was also very compatible with scientific knowledge and this all led to the Enlightenment and all the greatest literature, like Milton, Dostoevsky Shakespeare, etc.
Christian ideas in Western Civ is what created individualism and gave us a system of government that has given rights to minorities and women like no other nation on the face of the earth. The Protestant Christian ethic made economics here the most successful on earth because of the industriousness and trust and character that was promoted by the culture and majority of the people.
Perfect no, but more perfect than anything ever in history.
>>> then people who cannot accept that, who do not believe it is true, will become second-class citizens – tolerated perhaps, but only in a marginalised and stigmatised way.
Seems overstated. That would as easily describe people who don’t bathe.
...”Of course, Marxists don’t want you to understand and know history because then they can lie about everything”...
That’s why I am so thankful for the home school movement. Publik skool kids might not learn real history, but I know what you are talking about... not because I went to publik skool when I was a kid (learned practically NOTHING about history), but because I home school and have learned it all along with my son! Just read a book about Copernicus today... and Thomas Aquinas, wow! If only all children could receive a quality education. But then the Marxists would have one leg of their stool taken from them ;)
I sent my kids to Catholic schools for the most part, but they still had lay teachers and some of the books were ones used in public schools. Some teachers were better than others and as my five went through the system, the great teachers would be gone by the time my youngest was there :(
Individual teachers really determine the worth of the school year for the most part but there was always some decent content in the classes, and no discipline problems.
I homeschooled for a year. The curricula was the best I have ever seen. I even incorporated Latin I. It was made so easy to teach, I was amazed. Translating long sentences by the end of the year. Only had school 3 hours—five days a week but read great literature and did extravagant oil paintings, paper mache projects, diagramming sentences, etc.
Now adays I would NEVER send my child to a public school nor most private schools. I would homeschool. The moral relativism and revisionist history is too pervasive.
My two older sons went to a private Christian school. Pretty much what you described... They used public school text books, too. Basically, we paid LOTS of money for an ok education.
Home schooling is a gift from God for us. My son, (and I) are learning Latin, too! Classical education enables you to form a solid foundation.. a “peg” on which to hang future information (and to use to form future logic).
I was educated in Catholic schools when they still had nuns and Latin and diagramming. I had an excellent foundation—lots of logic— but the Church was starting to lose its confidence because of separation of Church and State and aggressive silencing and ridicule in the public square. The CC quit monitoring the movies which they strickly critiqued so that immoral ideas wouldn’t be transmitted to children. That ended in the later 60’s. They didn’t have any legal power, but the CC controlled public opinion enough that studios listened.
That was the start of the outright persecution of Christianity by the State by Progressives to destroy it. Of course, Marxists were infiltrating the Church to create these “Christian” Liberation Theology Churches to get control over South American and Latin America. Marcuse and everyone knew that the Catholic Church was too powerful for them to create socialism unless they perverted the religion and used the religion to create the collective—collective salvation.
Then, of course, the APA took homosexuality off of the mentally ill list and that forced the Church to treat gays as normal people who just strayed, instead of being inherently disordered and damaged. The Church was damned if they treated homosexuals too harshly (un-PC) and then, we saw what happened by only requiring counseling. The infiltration of the Church by homosexuals who can’t control their base urges even when it comes to children has done great harm to the Catholic Church.
It forces us to be a participant.
Thanks... I’ve learned a lot tonight. I had no idea who Marcuse was (excuse me while I vomit). I do know about the DSM that declassified homosexuality as a disorder in ‘73 (yet now maintains “homo-phobia” ((a made up affliction)) as a disorder in the DSM-IV.
I am not a Catholic, but I have great respect for the Church. She is a great cornerstone of God’s presence in this world.
That’s already happening in some cases and in some countries.
Glad we have people like Maggie. And remember many of Obama’s voters might vote Democrat but they oppose “gay marriage” as the Californian experience testifies. Many black voters have rescued the institution of marriage there.
Excellent point – and well made. I can tell you care for children.
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