CA state appeals court throws out Keyes vs. Bowen - claims SoS & electors had no duty to vet Obama

AIPNews.com | Oct. 26, 2010 | Tom Hoefling

[EternalVigilance]

The AIP response to press inquiries this morning:

"We have always maintained that the burden of proof that he possesses the constitutionally required credentials to serve as President rests squarely on Mr. Obama and no one else. For a mere ten dollars, with Barack Obama's assent, the State of Hawaii can and will provide the American people with a copy of his actual long form birth certificate. The fact that Mr. Obama continues to be willing to expend large sums of money, including precious taxpayers' dollars, to prevent the public revelation of such a simple document, has raised serious legitimate questions in the minds of millions of Americans about his qualifications. This is extremely unhealthy for the country, and for the Presidency, to say the least. That's why we applaud the efforts of Alan Keyes and other America's Independent Party leaders in their persistent demand that Barack Obama produce the necessary documents to clear these questions from the public docket, and fervently hope that they will appeal this unwise decision by this particular court."
 
Tom Hoefling
Chairman, America's Independent Party
 
tomhoefling@gmail.com 

 

[Boogieman]

“Any investigation of eligibility is best left to each party, which presumably will conduct the appropriate background check or risk that its nominee’s election will be derailed by an objection in Congress”

So.. as long as your party is in the majority in Congress, there’s no need to worry if your candidate is eligible. Tell me again why what the “birthers” claim happened is too crazy to investigate?

[Boogieman]

“Courts aren’t in business to answer questions you’d like to know.”

It’s not a question we’d like to know, it’s a question that was required to be answered before this clown could take office. While many Americans are sitting here wondering, why it wasn’t answered at that time, everyone is pointing the finger at someone else, saying that they had no responsibility to get that answer. Well, someone certain did have this responsibility, even if nobody wants to stand up and take the blame now.

[melancholy]

Schwartzenegger 2012?

He would be perfect for what I've been saying for over a year!

When Arnold or any naturalized citizen is refused a place on the '12 ballot, as he/she should, the "injured" candidate will have "standing" to sue for ALL other candidates to prove NBC status, subject to forensic approval.

Could 0b0z0 even try, especially with Hillary in the wings? This is why I believe he won't dare try!

[edge919]

Thank you for your input, Mr. Obama.

That's Mrs. Obama ... mlo = Michelle LeVaughn Obama.

[danamco]

You must have seen this too about Moodie, when I posted this a couple days ago, on the long ongoing thread about Lt.Col. Lakin. Thank you!!!

[STARWISE]

From the ruling .. blatant idiocy!!!

"Any investigation of eligibility is best left to each party, which presumably will conduct the appropriate background check or risk that its nominee’s election will be derailed by an objection in Congress, which is authorized to entertain and resolve the validity of objections following the submission of the electoral votes."

One page view of the ABOVE DOCUMENT

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WELL worth reading for what's behind the South Carolina 2008 certification

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IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK…

*snip*

The cast of characters in the South Carolina election scene reads like a ‘Who’s Who’ of Democratic politics. The Fowlers, Carol and Don, are as much a touchstone of the SC Democratic Party as are the Kennedys in Massachusetts.

Don is the former DNC Chair. Carol is the Chair of the SC Democratic Committee. Although married for only 3½ years, they have worked together in party politics for over 30 years.

Both are members of the DNC’s powerful Rules and Bylaws Committee; both were Super Delegates to the 2008 DNC Convention. In the 2008 Democratic Presidential Primary election, Don claimed he supported HRC; his wife supported BO.

*snip*

Does the organization of the D party or, the laws of the state of SC authorize the Treasurer of the party to authenticate the eligibility of the names of the D candidates submitted to the Election Commission to be placed on the ballot?

These are only some of the questions appropriately asked in the context of a criminal investigation.

Rest HERE

[Red Steel]

So we could put Mahmoud AhmadberdinnerJacket from Iran on the California presidential ballot. The CA SoS has no duty to vet him either.

[Non-Sequitur]

Well they didn’t think much of Kreeps brief, did they? I’m not sure I like the part about “...the presidential nominating process is not subject to each of the 50 states’ election officials independently decising whether a presidential nominee is qualified, as this could lead to chaotic results.” It could also lead to any state laws requiring candidates present birth certificates being struck down. Fortunately this is a state court and not a federal one.

[Non-Sequitur]

Another “suspicious decision” punting it to the SCOTUS.

California Supreme Court. It was a state court decision not a federal court one.

[Red Steel]

Contentless insult noted. Typical birther debating style. You don’t have facts or logic, so you call names.

You're lucky FR doesn't zot people for silly dingbatness. Many times those names are accurate descriptions.

[little jeremiah]

Another “suspicious decision” punting it to the SCOTUS.

That's why DeFazio is talking about impeachment papers against Justice Roberts and why they're attacking Justice Thomas.

[rxsid]

I've known about Moodie since I've known about the http://www.ballot-access.org piece on the Keyes lawsuit.

I was, however, reminded about it. Thanks.

[little jeremiah]

I bet Badmood I’mademonnutjob would be happy to run for the US president and I’m sure there are enough nutcase jihad loving etcs to do all the paperwork.

[butterdezillion]

Ya know, the funny thing.... the objections that were legally required to be asked for in Congress.... were never asked for. So this election has never been lawfully certified.

But this decision is total idiocy because the Constitution leaves the details of figuring out the elections TO THE STATES. Congress’ job is to count the electoral votes which come to them certified by the states. I can’t see as where the Constitution every authorizes Congress to override the rulings of the individual states. And the rulings of the individual states are done by their Secretary of State.

These judges are morons.

[unspun]

That is BS and that judge very likely knows it.

There is long record of SoS’ disallowing candidates.

[unspun]

Mlo’s arguing for the perverted judiciary system that is reinstituting authoritarianism vs. the self-governance of the Sovereign People is not a particularly good move in FR.

[Menehune56]

I see they also ordered the plaintiff (Keyes et al) to pay court costs.

[Tex-Con-Man]

"We have always maintained that the burden of proof that he possesses the constitutionally required credentials to serve as President rests squarely on Mr. Obama and no one else."

And the court replies...

The trial court found that plaintiffs did not identify any ministerial duty that the President and Vice President failed to perform, and the petition did not seek any relief against them; thus, plaintiffs failed to state a cause of action against those defendants.

Birthers are asking for a do-over....and the court says nope.

[Walts Ice Pick]

Well, it looks like the court ruled that the Congress should have checked out his qualifications if there was a doubt (12th Amendment). Since Cheney and Pelosi shirked their obligations, we're stuck.

However, a lack of qualifications would be a sound basis for impeachment. Calling Speaker Boehner!!

[azishot]

Coming in late....I noticed the word “presumably” could also mean “assume”. And we all know what “assume” means.

Everyone wants to pass the buck and our country is left holding the bag. In this case the bag is full of BO.