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To: fabrizio
(1)"States have the right to regulate migration flows and to defend their own frontiers, always guaranteeing the respect due to the dignity of each and every human person. Immigrants, moreover, have the duty to integrate into the host Country, respecting its laws and its national identity."

(2)"The challenge is to combine the welcome due to every human being, especially when in need, with a reckoning of what is necessary for both the local inhabitants and the new arrivals to live a dignified and peaceful life"

As usual, the Roman Catholic Church is speaking with forked tongue, talking out of both sides of its mouth, trying to have it both ways.

The "challenge", meant to explain how to proceed on the first statement, makes no acceptance that the first statement implies ("the right to regulate migration flows and to defend their own frontiers") that quite possibly NO "welcome" is warranted or deserved. It denies the importance of the right to regulate immigration when it implies there are only two groups of persons for whom dignity is deserved - the "local inhabitants" and the "new arrivals". Nowhere in the challenge is the obligation of the "new arrivals" to NOT BE new arrivals in the first place.

The words on the Statue of Liberty are NOT:

"Give me your tired, your poor and hungry."

They are: "Give me your tired, your poor and hungry, YEARNING TO BE FREE".

The issue, the ideal expressed in those words is about LIBERTY, not material wealth and poverty, not earning more money here than you can where you come from.

As far as I know, the overwhelming majority who comprise the U.S. illegal immigrant population comes from south of our southern border and they have as much LIBERTY as we do; they are as free as we are to act, collectively, to change their society and culture for the better in their homeland. We have NO moral obligation to accept them, to "welcome" them, in some misguided notion that they have a right and we have an obligation to that "welcome".

28 posted on 10/26/2010 12:21:45 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
As usual, the Roman Catholic Church is speaking with forked tongue, talking out of both sides of its mouth, trying to have it both ways.

First of all, the Catholic Church does not speak with a forked tongue, and as usual you didn't activate what's left of your neurons before offending us this way. Are you against LEGAL and justly regulated immigration? Secondly, where is the contradiction?

A) Do you even understand that this is a message for the WORLD Day of migrants and not for the border states, so the perspective is a bit different? The Pope is not speaking about the US specifically, but of the whole world, and the Church has often blasted the impotence and the hypocrisy of international institutions and of other nations in the face of humanitarian crises, and praised the US instead in this regard.

B) because you have a right to regulate immigration doesn't mean that you need to treat immigrants like animals no? But that's what happens in many hellholes of the world, my hysterical anti-catholic friend.

C) it is precisely this kind of nonsense that gives ammo to the dhimmicrats and their drones to accuse us of racism and intolerance, while there has never been a country more welcoming of LEGAL and well-disposed immigrants than the US of A.

There are a bunch of good people out there who would make wonderful US citizens if only someone had the guts to secure the damn border and treat all smugglers to a big tall tree and a short piece of rope. What do we have instead? Legal immigration is a costly bureaucratic nightmare that punishes honest, talented and pro-US foreigners who want to immigrate the right way, the border is a joke, the left thrives on this situation and what you recommend is that the US just say no to all immigration. And I bet that in your anti-Catholic bigotry you think you're being patriotic and smart! Don't know about your tongue, but your logic sure is forked as hell!

31 posted on 10/26/2010 1:36:15 PM PDT by fabrizio (Restore the Republic!)
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To: Wuli
"Give me your tired, your poor and hungry, YEARNING TO BE FREE".

Actually, it's-

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..."

Only because you used quotation marks...BTW, it's from The New Colossus by Emma Lazarus.

45 posted on 10/27/2010 4:59:08 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Carthago Delenda Est..)
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