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To: Wuli
As usual, the Roman Catholic Church is speaking with forked tongue, talking out of both sides of its mouth, trying to have it both ways.

First of all, the Catholic Church does not speak with a forked tongue, and as usual you didn't activate what's left of your neurons before offending us this way. Are you against LEGAL and justly regulated immigration? Secondly, where is the contradiction?

A) Do you even understand that this is a message for the WORLD Day of migrants and not for the border states, so the perspective is a bit different? The Pope is not speaking about the US specifically, but of the whole world, and the Church has often blasted the impotence and the hypocrisy of international institutions and of other nations in the face of humanitarian crises, and praised the US instead in this regard.

B) because you have a right to regulate immigration doesn't mean that you need to treat immigrants like animals no? But that's what happens in many hellholes of the world, my hysterical anti-catholic friend.

C) it is precisely this kind of nonsense that gives ammo to the dhimmicrats and their drones to accuse us of racism and intolerance, while there has never been a country more welcoming of LEGAL and well-disposed immigrants than the US of A.

There are a bunch of good people out there who would make wonderful US citizens if only someone had the guts to secure the damn border and treat all smugglers to a big tall tree and a short piece of rope. What do we have instead? Legal immigration is a costly bureaucratic nightmare that punishes honest, talented and pro-US foreigners who want to immigrate the right way, the border is a joke, the left thrives on this situation and what you recommend is that the US just say no to all immigration. And I bet that in your anti-Catholic bigotry you think you're being patriotic and smart! Don't know about your tongue, but your logic sure is forked as hell!

31 posted on 10/26/2010 1:36:15 PM PDT by fabrizio (Restore the Republic!)
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To: fabrizio

“what you recommend is that the US just say no to all immigration.”

(1) Quite the contrary. I think legal immigration should be expanded, particularly in job categories that would help keep domestic employers from looking abroad to establish foreign offices just for the talent available there.

(2) However, I also believe that expanded immigration for “immigrants we need” is a NATIONAL moral imperative over generation after repeated generation of preferences for “family members” that at present TRUMP most other immigration preferences.

(3) I think ANY form of general amnesty for ILLEGAL immigration is a huge MORAL insult to EVERY LEGAL immigrant. It spits on them, it says they were idiots and fools to even bother to go through legal immigration, and if amnesty does come you can guarantee that is exactly what they will tell their relatives who have not immigrated here - “don’t be idiots like we were, just get our numbers up and all the silly moralists will demand that all be forgiven”.

The “challenge” offered in the Vatican statement does not even accept that it can be MORAL to deny “welcome” to ILLEGAL immigrants. Its own phrasing in the “challenge” puts all immigrants (legal AND illegal) in the category of “new arrivals” which as much as accepts that once they have become “new arrivals” we are obliged to give them a place instead of sending them home. If anyone actually cares about their own families and communities there is nothing moral in that blanket acceptance.

The Vatican takes back in the “challenge” what it pretends to respect in the fig-leaf recognition of the legal right to control immigration. It DOES speak with forked-tongue. It as much as says: “well yes there are legal rights to control immigration, but regardless of those rights, ALL “new arrivals” deserve the same welcome. No, ALL do not, and yes they are trying to be mugwumps - their mug on one side of the fence and their wumps on the other.

The Vatican’s only “challenge” in its statement is one issued to those on the receiving end of “immigration” - legal or illegal (they make no identifying connection, in the “challenge” that they are different). If that were not the case, then the “challenge” would also include the moral “challenge” for the ILLEGAL immigrant to NOT think he has some inherent right to cross borders at will. It does not. It ignores it.


34 posted on 10/26/2010 2:21:01 PM PDT by Wuli
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