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Challenge to the MEN of Free Republic: RESPOND. (vanity)

Posted on 10/24/2010 6:57:34 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

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To: TommyDale; cycle of discernment

It’s a fair question.

Yesterday watching the news with my husband I made a very argument to him, though I did not say it was just men who needed to stand up.

The Democrats are trotting Bill Clinton out to save their hides this coming election and it seems that it is an effective strategy.

In my mind, it must be because his presidency is associated with a successful and prosperous time in our recent history and many mistakenly attribute that to him and wish to return to those times.

Jesus said we cannot serve two masters and this country has chosen which master it will serve and is reaping the consequences.


21 posted on 10/24/2010 7:34:22 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: SamAdams76

All women are not the same. Unfortunately though, too many are idiot followers, not capable of big picture thinking,

But we cannot allow them to define our world, can we?

Are you implying that the males just shuffle off and say, ‘well, what about those women that liked Clinton, forget it, i’m protecting my porn..”?


22 posted on 10/24/2010 7:34:40 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Wiser now

Women only have such rights as men are willing (or conned) into giving them.


23 posted on 10/24/2010 7:35:51 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: cycle of discernment

...Men’s influence over women has been so great that they have been virtually able to form women’s manners and morals and code of conduct. They have set the pattern for femininity and women have broken their necks trying to be what men wanted them to he. And if you doubt, this, consider what a change has come over the behavior of women in the last few years. As long as men admired modesty in women every girl was a prunes and prisms miss who went swathed in draperies from head to foot.

As long as men demanded chastity in women they kept themselves as pure as snow. As long as no man would have been seen with a drunken woman the sweet young things sang “The lips that touch wine shall never touch mine.” But now, when it is the loose living girls who pet and drink and smoke and go on wild parties who have the most dates, girls have cast their inhibitions to the wind and are just as tough as men want them to be. It was men’s influence that kept women good. It is men’s influence that is dragging them into the mire.

-Dorothy Dix, January 15th, 1941


24 posted on 10/24/2010 7:37:51 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (To be determined...)
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To: cycle of discernment
That means raising yourself to a better place, and it begins with each of us.

But especially "the men on FreeRepublic", right?

You don't know me so I will forgive your insult. But I think there are a few other conservative guys here who feel as I do.

Try over at DU.

25 posted on 10/24/2010 7:38:21 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: ichabod1

Read my second post: excerpt here:

“American women were given the leverage to help themselves ( **And this is a true historical and spiritual marvel that western, Christian males extended to females and this should be heralded**).”


26 posted on 10/24/2010 7:40:46 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: airborne

Please read more thoughtfully my posts, the second especially. You have not given me credit for what I am trying to say.

As for DU, it is the ashbin of moray decay, and no thanks.


27 posted on 10/24/2010 7:43:16 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: csmusaret

You may have (unwittingly) just illustrated the problem.


28 posted on 10/24/2010 7:44:31 AM PDT by FourPeas (Pester not the geek, for the electrons are his friends.)
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To: Jvette

I don’t think conservative men have any respect for Clinton.


29 posted on 10/24/2010 7:45:46 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: cycle of discernment

Read your post.

Nice sentiment, but it’s not going to happen. At least not until He returns.

In the meantime, I hope you get over the mistreatment you experienced at the hands of some guy or guys.

We aren’t all bad.


30 posted on 10/24/2010 7:48:25 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: cycle of discernment

Right. Can’t say that the countries still ruled by males are doing very well for themselves. Perhaps it’s more about the decline of education and morality by the socio-leninists trying to destroy the middle class (bourgeois) because it is all that stands between them and power.


31 posted on 10/24/2010 7:51:39 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: FourPeas

Connect the dots. It’s not so simple to ‘blame females’.

Like it or not, MALES are the evolutionary engine..MALES are the gender that takes greater risk, MALES are naturally more dominate.

Females BY NATURE must ‘get along’ to survive and protect offspring...the out-lyer females do exist that shake it up—but the majority wants to keep it “steady”, for survival of the nest—females are the evolutionary rock, males the engine—for good AND bad.

The female will not upend the applecart as easily. But the female will go for the male that demonstrates power because it represents protection.

Too many not-big-picture thinking females attracted to Clinton because of the power he represented. If males en masse ( media, all) had banded together and ostracized him—rightfully—he would have been disgraced and cast out, the ultimate in WEAKNESS, his allure would have been extinquished.

Males do set the agenda.

Accept this.


32 posted on 10/24/2010 7:54:27 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment
It's the vast majority of women who elected both Clinton and Obama.

Men far more often vote conservative and women more often than not vote all the bonds in and vote for all the social safety nets.

Since women have been able to vote we have gone far more on the slide toward socialism and what are men supposed to do about that?

33 posted on 10/24/2010 7:59:09 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: airborne

What I have written is not at all about personal experience.

You’d be surprised if you knew my demographic.

My thoughts are based in an attempt to be objective and seize what is really operating that is tearing us apart.

There are so many asleep souls. Most are in fact, I think.

Females, males alike.

So the hearty 15% ( percentage of brave, natural leaders in the population) must lead....males are the dominate, evolutionary engine. It must be the males.

But with an eyes-open back to the basics with honor and value all round.


34 posted on 10/24/2010 8:00:30 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: rickmichaels

Make me a samich?


35 posted on 10/24/2010 8:01:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: airborne

I am so confused by everything in this thread.

How is calling on men to take a stand against pornography and immorality a wrong thing? Why is it impossible? Why are so many men here violently angry at the suggestion? Why do you assume that this is a damaged female making the call?

If a guy started a thread saying, “Listen girls. Stop dressing like skanks. You’re just degrading yourselves and contributing to the degradation of our society,” I’d listen.

The last thing that would occur to me is to say, “But what are guys going to do? huh??”

These are honest questions. I’m always trying to understand that male mind and I am genuinely curious. (Much in the same way that I can’t wrap my brain around the “farts are funny” paradigm.)

People know right from wrong and I thought it was generally understood that porn was wrong.

Would a guy please break this down for me?

???


36 posted on 10/24/2010 8:02:30 AM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: cycle of discernment

What I want in a woman? I want you to bait your own hook and at least know how to clean your catch.Be able and willing to cut the grass and at least put gas in the tank and check the oil.Be able to correct the actions of the children when dad is not there and have a clue as to what the weather is going to be like for a few days ahead.I want you to know wich way is north south east and west by looking at the sun or stars.Know how to lock and load if needed.Be able to cook on a stove instead of the microwave.Know how to make a living if something happens to your spouse. Now, think about what I just mentioned and look at many of the women of today. Many of them are clueless and you want to know why men treat them as they do.If you dress like a whore you will find out you will be treated like o0ne.That does not mean you can’t keep your body in shape and still be attractive.


37 posted on 10/24/2010 8:03:16 AM PDT by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: cycle of discernment

Very well put.

Plenty sadly true.

Sadly plenty true.


38 posted on 10/24/2010 8:04:02 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: TommyDale

No, they don’t and neither do women.

I have to tell you this story though.

My parents are Republicans through and through. My dad was a lifer in the AF and reached the rank of two star general.

When he received his second star, it was pinned on him by none other than Pres. Bill Clinton.

My dad was disappointed that it was “that” president, but was pleased that was a president.

My mom, who despises Bill Clinton, said that though she can’t stand him, he is nevertheless very attractive and has a way of looking at you with those blue eyes that makes it seem he really cares about what you are saying.

So there you have it. Women have been falling for the bad boy over and over and over. My mom still can’t stand him, but she never fails to remark about how attractive he is in person.


39 posted on 10/24/2010 8:06:30 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: A CA Guy

Males must step forward and be relentless in the face of manipulative leftist media PR to shame them from their common-sense stance.

Men have allowed themselves to be shushed by the media:

By college journalism grad “mush-brains” that haven’t the first clue about real cause and effect—grads that are writing the headlines that are influencing the minds of millions—grads that are immature and wet behind the ears, smitten with shallow celebrity and Marxist college profs.

Men—need to stand up for what they know is right in their gut, stop second guessing what they know —and what history tells us—is true.

BUT men also need to be honest about their own destructive behaviors.


40 posted on 10/24/2010 8:07:20 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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