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When Zombies Attack
Campaign for Liberty ^ | 10/222/10 | Tom Woods

Posted on 10/23/2010 11:58:14 AM PDT by Bokababe

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To: Carry_Okie

Oops, I was referring to the humor in the video
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=1167


21 posted on 10/23/2010 7:31:37 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus CONSERVATIVE is a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
I was wondering what you may know has been tried using the nullification to defeat the Feds signing any old treaty that steals States’ or individual Rights?

It's never been done.

22 posted on 10/23/2010 9:12:15 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
First of all,

You are an extremist, by the way, if the enforcer can't find a place for you on the spectrum that runs from Mitch McConnell to Hillary Clinton.

LMAO.

As to the rest, the list of unconstitutional laws and treaties is so long, they'd better get started so that they can complete a bill within a legislative session.

23 posted on 10/23/2010 9:17:35 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Of interest.


24 posted on 10/24/2010 5:23:39 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: CholeraJoe; Delta 21; Nikas777; NoAmnesty; Yorlik803; TheOldLady; The Comedian; OB1kNOb; ...


Thanks for the ping, TheOldLady.
25 posted on 10/24/2010 6:48:40 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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Yes, that opinion of "Nullification" is certainly popular at 6% of the reviews.

Woods's M.O. is to act like a wild man, throwing abuse at anyone who disagrees with him, until some readers assume he just has to be right.

He's just fighting fire with fire.

26 posted on 10/24/2010 7:27:17 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Can zombies do that?


27 posted on 10/24/2010 7:31:38 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: RandallFlagg
Watch the enlightening video at the link. It really ends on a high shamble.

I know you've seen it before, Mr. Flagg.

28 posted on 10/24/2010 7:44:52 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Bokababe

Nully and interpose! Be our shield state government protect us!


29 posted on 10/24/2010 8:23:03 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: TheOldLady; Bokababe
Yes, that opinion of "Nullification" is certainly popular at 6% of the reviews.

Any "review-it-yourself" site is bound to be clogged with people who automatically give five stars to even the shoddiest work, but I thought Jeremy made good arguments.

In my opinion, Woods doesn't really think things through. He's one of those people who see some particular problem and come up with an answer for it, but don't ask, "What next? What if my proposal goes through? How will things work then?"

He's sort of like somebody who looks at the problems in education and wants to abolish the public schools. Maybe that would work, maybe it wouldn't, but a lot more thinking about what happens next and how things would be better or worse is required before I'd accept that as an answer. It's likely such a "solution" would simply exchange one problem for another.

One of the attractions of nullification is that it would so gum up the works of government that nothing would get done. If states could simply invalidate federal laws they didn't like, it would make federalism impossible. There may be major disadvantages to that, especially in times of crisis, but Woods doesn't care about that.

I guess his argument would be that things can't get worse than they are now, but that's very naive thinking. You've only got to look around the world to see that.

30 posted on 10/24/2010 12:23:09 PM PDT by x
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"In my opinion, Woods doesn't really think things through. He's one of those people who see some particular problem and come up with an answer for it, but don't ask, "What next? What if my proposal goes through? How will things work then?"

While I have no personal attachment to Woods, I tend to think of ideas like this in terms of their cumulative value. Woods writes a book on Nullification, which spurs others to refine their ideas on nullification, countering some arguments and expanding on others (as you have), and then they write their own books. Usually when ideas like this are explored, it's always the first guy out of the gate who gets all the abuse from both sides, then there others who'll say, "Yes, but..." and pretty soon, the arguments on the subject are mainstreamed and discussed rationally.

I give Woods credit for being the first one out of the gate to take the heat -- because he not only has to deal with people who have legitimate arguments about his work -- but he also has to deal with the others who are just repeating the propaganda that they learned in high school against him -- in short, "the zombies". I can imagine getting hit on all sides like that would probably make one very defensive, in fact overly defensive, even if they aren't a narcissist by nature.

31 posted on 10/24/2010 12:41:17 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Usually when ideas like this are explored, it's always the first guy out of the gate who gets all the abuse from both sides, then there others who'll say, "Yes, but..." and pretty soon, the arguments on the subject are mainstreamed and discussed rationally.

Good point. I've spent enough time on the LewRockwell.com site to lose respect for Woods and his gang, but you may be right.

32 posted on 10/24/2010 1:03:41 PM PDT by x
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Thanks ForGod’sSake.


33 posted on 10/24/2010 1:32:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Bokababe

Thanks for the ping.


34 posted on 10/25/2010 12:43:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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