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No 'Christian' roommate for churchgoer- Complaint filed with Fair Housing Center
WOOD TV ^ | 10/21/10

Posted on 10/21/2010 6:33:45 PM PDT by earlJam

No 'Christian' roommate for churchgoer Complaint filed with Fair Housing Center

Updated: Thursday, 21 Oct 2010, 5:51 PM EDT Published : Thursday, 21 Oct 2010, 5:51 PM EDT

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) - The Fair Housing Center of West Michigan filed a housing discrimination charge against a Grand Rapids woman who advertised for a Christian roommate on her church bulletin board.

The 31-year-old woman's attorney, who works for the Alliance Defense Fund , said this is a blatant violation of her First Amendment right to freely associate.

But Nancy Haynes of the Fair Housing Center told 24 Hour News 8 the woman has every right to seek and live with a Christian roommate -- but advertising for it publicly, even on a church bulletin board, violates federal law.

"She can be a Christian and she can even use that as a criteria for who she wants to rent to. She just can't state that. Because to state that is a violation of the Fair Housing Act," she said. "There are certain exceptions that apply. She can actually, in practice, not rent to a non-Christian. But she can't make the statement. The statement alone is a violation of the act. What she can do in practice she can't make a statement about."

Haynes said the Fair Housing Center began investigating after someone in the congregation, who was offended, filed a complaint.

The center then filed a complaint with the Michigan Department of Civil Rights , and the action is administrative, not criminal. The center asks for a response to try and negotiate a settlement. If they can't, it's possible that the Michigan Department of Civil Rights would determine if a violation happened and perhaps recommend a hearing.

The Alliance Defense Fund sent a letter seeking dismissal of this complaint to the Michigan Department of Civil Rights, but there has not yet been a response.

"I found (the woman and her attorney's) response very offensive. We're not punishing her for being Christian at all. If you're in the business of renting, it's a business transaction that's held to a standard under federal, state and local law."

The state wants the woman to get training in federal law, and reimburse the Fair Housing Center $300 for the time it took them to investigate.


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To: Ronin

I have a real problem with this ‘anonymously reporting’ of others. It needs to be stopped.


61 posted on 10/21/2010 8:10:18 PM PDT by yellow rubber ducky (One day I realized I am living in Bizarro world.)
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To: iowamark
She has a right to discriminate in the choice of a roommate sharing her apartment. She would not have the right to discriminate religiously if she were renting other apartments.

Once we had these things called 'property rights' - not to mention religious freedom. Now they mock us as they enslave us.

62 posted on 10/21/2010 8:13:29 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Have you voted yet?)
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To: earlJam
The state wants the woman to get training in federal law, and reimburse the Fair Housing Center $300

This persecution of the poor by the wealthy liberal elite, who can afford to live without finding a roommate.

63 posted on 10/21/2010 8:15:30 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: earlJam

I tried to rent a classified ad ($25) in the local fishwrap, saying I was a Christian looking for a housemate. The ad was slapped down, I told I wasn’t allowed to say that. I was also told I had to accept whoever wanted to rent my room or I could be sued.

This was a few weeks the same fishwrap announced a homosexual counterfeit marriage in their bridal section, so I cancelled my subscription. That was the last time I ever had a newspaper subscription.


64 posted on 10/21/2010 8:19:49 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: earlJam

I tried to rent a classified ad ($25) in the local fishwrap, saying I was a Christian looking for a housemate. The ad was slapped down, I told I wasn’t allowed to say that. I was also told I had to accept whoever wanted to rent my room or I could be sued.

This was a few weeks the same fishwrap announced a homosexual counterfeit marriage in their bridal section, so I cancelled my subscription. That was the last time I ever had a newspaper subscription.


65 posted on 10/21/2010 8:19:56 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: earlJam

The bastards should be counter-sued.


66 posted on 10/21/2010 8:21:00 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: donna
Weird list. You can advertise for a sober person, but cannot specify no alcoholics.
67 posted on 10/21/2010 8:28:26 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Spirochete

LEt’s finally throw ‘separation of church and state’ back at the statists.

She advertised on a church bulletin board. State, get the hell out of the church.


68 posted on 10/21/2010 8:33:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: MNDude

Send that link to the FHA folks in MI.


69 posted on 10/21/2010 8:35:57 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: JMS
No, it doesn't make sense.

In short, if you have to live with them, you can discriminate as to who you live with.

70 posted on 10/21/2010 8:37:03 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: earlJam

This absolutely makes my blood boil! So the woman cannot specify “Christian” in the ad, and must wade through all of the applicants, somehow trying to discern if they are Christian or not, wasting their time and hers?

Choosing who will live under your roof with you should be a basic right. Everything about this is just terribly wrong.


71 posted on 10/21/2010 8:38:35 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: earlJam
"She can be a Christian and she can even use that as a criteria for who she wants to rent to. She just can't state that. Because to state that is a violation of the Fair Housing Act," she said. "There are certain exceptions that apply. She can actually, in practice, not rent to a non-Christian. But she can't make the statement. The statement alone is a violation of the act. What she can do in practice she can't make a statement about."

If this isn't ridiculous I don't know what is.

72 posted on 10/21/2010 8:48:35 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Shelayne

She should file suit for harrassment instead. “Training in federal law” for posting a flyer asking for a Christian roommate at her church and be fined $300 - for posting something on a church bulletin board. Words can hardly begin to describe how stupid this is - they had to conduct an “investigation” into some lady posting a piece of paper in a church on a bulletin board...are we living in insane times or what?


73 posted on 10/21/2010 8:52:45 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: earlJam

This woman needs to find a new church home.


74 posted on 10/21/2010 9:19:20 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (You will try to nudge commies toward the truth, while they try to nudge you toward the cattle cars.)
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To: earlJam

If the lady advertising doesn’t want to be with you because you are not a Christian there ain’t no free association.

All relationships are conditional especially those as close as a roommate.


75 posted on 10/21/2010 9:26:15 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: All
"She just can't state that."

HOW can that be?? What happened to "free speech"??

76 posted on 10/21/2010 9:34:23 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: earlJam

It would be interesting to know whether this law could compel the woman to rent to a man.


77 posted on 10/21/2010 9:40:31 PM PDT by csense
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To: liberalism is suicide

They have been here for a long time. They are called sensitivity training and done in corporations all the time due to the laws made in congress..


78 posted on 10/21/2010 9:48:28 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Ronin

“What I would be willing to bet megabucks on is that it was NOT a regularly attending member of that church’s congregation and that the “Fair Housing Center” will fight to the death to avoid revealing who made the complaint. Further, I would go so far as to say I bet there are a LOT of complaints submitted by that person.”

I wouldn’t go that far. I have no doubt there would be regularly attending members in my church who would turn in the poster. I just keep away and pray for them.


79 posted on 10/22/2010 2:18:20 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: WVNan

Will do!


80 posted on 10/22/2010 3:56:23 AM PDT by MNDude (Ask the Native American's how their "Open Borders" policy worked out for them.)
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