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If Health Care Reform Unravels
AARP Bulletin ^ | 09/24/10 | Patricia Barry

Posted on 10/21/2010 8:43:47 AM PDT by shortstop

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Anyone who has any doubt about which side of the fence AARP is on should be convinced with this article. I apologize if this has been posted before, but I just caught up with it.
1 posted on 10/21/2010 8:43:52 AM PDT by shortstop
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Complete link: http://www.aarp.org/health/health-care-reform/info-09-2010/if_health_care_reform_unravels_.html


2 posted on 10/21/2010 8:45:20 AM PDT by shortstop (Marco Rubio in 2010/Chris Christie in 2012.)
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In other words, “if you support the repeal, our leadership will lose those great perks.”


3 posted on 10/21/2010 8:47:15 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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The rest of the article:

"You really can't pick and choose elements of this very complex package to preserve or to eliminate," Reischauer says. "It hangs together as a whole. Stripping out the individual mandate or the exchanges or the subsidies would leave a chaotic structure."

Gutting the law of measures designed to reduce the upward spiral of medical costs over time would also have a negative effect on the federal deficit, Social Security and Medicare. With those cost-saving measures in place, projected savings would shave $143 billion from the deficit by 2019, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. Medicare's solvency would be extended by 12 years.

And because tax-free employer insurance premiums are expected to go down under the new law, leaving employees with more taxable earnings, the recent trustees' report predicted a somewhat rosier picture for Social Security's health over the next 75 years "than would occur in the absence of the legislation." But the reverse is true if the law is repealed, says AARP's Rother. "If costs are not restrained, then more of your income goes to health care and less to Social Security payroll taxes, and that hastens the financial exhaustion of Social Security pretty dramatically."

Democrats and Republicans can both cite public opinion polls to support their positions, because Americans are fairly equally divided for and against the law. "Of those with a view, half want to go ahead, implement the law and even strengthen it, and half don't," says Robert Blendon, a public opinion expert and a professor at Harvard University. "And currently the half that don't are likely to vote Republican."

These findings are muddied, though, by recent polls showing widespread misunderstanding of what the law actually says. More than a third of people 65 and older think it would allow a government panel to make decisions about end-of-life care — the "death panels" coined by Sarah Palin — and half think it would cut benefits to everyone on Medicare, according to a survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation. In fact, the law does neither.

"Right now, people are making a judgment about what they hear about the law," often gleaned from misinformation spread by its critics, says Drew Altman, the foundation's president. "But at some point the public judgment will be based on what tens of millions of people actually experience as a result of what's in the law."

In that context, though, the Democrats may not have time on their side. The law's main provisions, for better or worse, do not go into effect until 2014, long after the 2010 midterm elections, after the 2012 presidential election and after the lawsuits have begun working their way through the courts.

4 posted on 10/21/2010 8:48:33 AM PDT by shortstop (Marco Rubio in 2010/Chris Christie in 2012.)
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AARP is my Money Coach, and my Money Coach sez...

5 posted on 10/21/2010 8:49:06 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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AARP has assured that I will never open another mailing from them, unless it’s to send back a postage paid envelope, empty, so they have to pay for it.

Darn commies.


6 posted on 10/21/2010 8:50:12 AM PDT by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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Clearly, this is AARP’s get-out-the-vote effort on behalf of their life partners, the Democrats.

How is AARP any different than the any other Union thug outfit?


7 posted on 10/21/2010 8:51:00 AM PDT by Obadiah (I can see November from my house!)
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AARP is nothing but a shill for Obamacare and any other business that will give them a cut for using the AARP name, no friend to us old folks.


8 posted on 10/21/2010 8:51:00 AM PDT by anchorclankor (From the main part of Missouri)
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If the legal challenges from the states succeed and the individual mandate is eliminated, all the most popular new benefits and consumer protections of the law could evaporate...

If the federal government can force you to buy something simply because you are still breathing, what can't they do?

9 posted on 10/21/2010 8:52:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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The article made the best case for getting out the vote for republicans!!


10 posted on 10/21/2010 8:52:32 AM PDT by bfree (The revolution is coming - FUBO)
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AARP is just another wing of the DNC!


11 posted on 10/21/2010 8:52:55 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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"AARP has assured that I will never open another mailing from them, unless it’s to send back a postage paid envelope, empty, so they have to pay for it."

I do that once a week and don't feel bad about it. May they use up all their propaganda money on postage.

12 posted on 10/21/2010 8:54:00 AM PDT by shortstop (Marco Rubio in 2010/Chris Christie in 2012.)
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AARP is an insurance company and cut a sweetheart deal with BO so he could point to their endorsement of HellCare. They have ZERO credibility and no self-respecting conservative would ever belong to this sleazy bunch of Democrat shills.


13 posted on 10/21/2010 8:54:14 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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> “AARP is just another wing of the DNC!”

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Yep! - the fund raising wing.


14 posted on 10/21/2010 8:54:57 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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“If”?

It’s “When”.

Either Republicans and conservatives un-do and/or re-do, or the system collapses under its own debt in the near future, just like any other politician’s vote-buying scheme.


15 posted on 10/21/2010 9:02:29 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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unless it’s to send back a postage paid envelope, empty, so they have to pay for it.

Don't do that. Fill the envelope with 11 ounces of steel plate washers first. Then send it back.

L

16 posted on 10/21/2010 9:02:42 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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But they say that with only a slim majority in the House, Republicans could still throw enough sand in the gears to make the law virtually unworkable before its main provisions go into effect.

Complete BS! No sand needed! STOP THE "GEARS" NOW! Cut the primary lubricator, MONEY, stupid!

Defunding through the purse strings doesn't need to be in "bills" approved by 60 in the Senate and overriding 0b0z0's hoof. PERIOD.

Defund the bill, the 16,000 IRS enforcers and everything else supporting the bill.

That's the tip of the iceberg. DEFUND ALL 0b0z0's agenda, passed and in the pipeline! Cap & Tax comes to mind.

DEFUND the EPA, DOEn, DOEd, HHS, NPR, PBS, Union bailouts, teachers, communist entities/parasites and states bailouts. Let the state residents deal with their local government through a tax rebellion by simply refuse to pay any taxes until local governments reverse their policies while making no salaries.

Yeah, riiiight, "there will be no police or firefighters or teachers...etc." Yep, let's start over. The Wild West will encourage and enforce more law and order than we have now. Can you say liberal judges?

I can go on and on. For crying out loud, we shouldn't accept being held hostages any longer!

17 posted on 10/21/2010 9:06:05 AM PDT by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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One thing Congress can do is allow open insurance competition across state lines, and open competition against Obamacare. They can also eliminate gravy for targeted interests, such as Nebraska’s exemption and exemptions for Muslims and unions.

They can also enact tort reform.


18 posted on 10/21/2010 9:07:42 AM PDT by lurk
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"Right now, people are making a judgment about what they hear about the law," often gleaned from misinformation spread by its critics, says Drew Altman, the foundation's president. "But at some point the public judgment will be based on what tens of millions of people actually experience as a result of what's in the law."

Obamacare Raises Medicare Advantage Costs for Seniors

The Verdict Is In: Medicare Advantage Will Suffer Under Obamacare

ObamaCare Brings Insurance Rate Hikes

CT approves rate hikes to cover ObamaCare mandates

Obamacare mandates result in 47 percent hikes in insurance costs

Higher rates, less coverage, as initial Obamacare mandates take effect

2500 Sallie Mae jobs to be cut thanks to ObamaCARE

Obamacare causes companies to drop health insurance coverage

Side Effects: Obamacare Creates a Costly Drop in Employer Health Coverage

Obamacare: Some insurers begin to drop coverage of children

rationing and higher premiums

longer emergency room lines

doctors dropping Medicaid

paying higher premiums to keep your doctor

federal funding of abortion

ObamaCare forces another insurer to drop all coverage

19 posted on 10/21/2010 9:18:56 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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The trial lawyers were with obie and the dems advocating for this bill and vehemently resist tort reform. The funny thing is that once we have a true single-payer system (as the fringe left wants) we will automatically have tort reform. As the single payer, the government would have to sign off on being sued.


20 posted on 10/21/2010 9:21:40 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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