Posted on 10/20/2010 10:45:29 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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23% | 138 votes | Total: 596 votes |
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77% | 458 votes |
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Spain’s Solar Deals on Edge of Bankruptcy as Subsidies Founder
“Government subsidies” are at best inefficiently distributed, and at worst used to reward political patronage. Everything the government does is done poorly and is eventually done corruptly.
They shouldn't fund programs until they are proven viable. And then and only then funding of production should come in the form of loans to help them get started.
If ethanol production still needed to be subsidized with oil over $100 a barrel, it’ll never compete in the market.
I voted No again...
So if we DON’T pump out and consume all of that oil that is at the bottom of the ocean, does that mean we will have to just “accept” tarballs of oil naturally rising to the surface and floating to our shorelines?
Ecoweenies are dumb.
Ethanol does not belong in the list. It is not efficient to make and it doesn’t have all that much energy in it.
burning food for energy is an act of desperation, not a “green” act.
Not a cent of subsidies.
But it is behind in the polling.
For details....we go to Watts Up With That:
Initiative to suspend California’s Global Warming Law (AB32) makes the ballot
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I’m proud to say that Dan Logue is my assemblyman. – Anthony
Economic initiative makes the ballot
In a phone interview, Logue said he found out Tuesday the initiative had enough valid signatures.
He said the initiative needed 440,000 signatures and it got 800,000. The names were collected by volunteers and paid “signature gatherers,” he said.
AB32 became law in 2006. It provides that between 2012 and 2020, greenhouse gas emissions will be reduced to the levels they were in 1990.
Logue’s initiative would postpone the implementation of AB32 until the state’s unemployment rate stands at 5.5 percent for a year. Now the jobless rate is around 12 percent.
Suspending AB32 only makes sense, Logue said. “We can’t afford it. We’ll lose another million jobs. It will drive business out of the state.”
Robin Huffman, advocacy director for the Chico-based Butte Environmental Council, expressed the opposite view.
Suspending AB32 is not necessary, she said. The law “is the very encouragement and incentive that is needed to create the jobs that we need for the new green economy.”
She called AB32 “a very, very reasonable law” and “a step in the right direction.”
“I’m sad that it’s gotten on the ballot,” she said of Logue’s initiative.
Logue said he’s long been disturbed by what he called a regulatory climate in the state that discourages business.
“Economic recovery begins by suspending AB32,” he said.
more here
The trouble is it takes more than subsidies to make these turkey’s fly. They also need mandates for use and import duties to make get investors to invest.
I noted that this website is encouraging a no vote on prop 23..in CA that is a real vote not just a poll and I have already voted yes on CA to at least partially block CA’s crazy drive into alternative energy that doesn’t pay.
James Cameron pledges $1 million to fight Prop 23
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This fuel costs $10 a gallon. If you give me $7.00, I’ll sell it to you for only $4.00 a gallon. (The extra dollar is a tax on the $7.00 tax you just paid.) Now my fuel is cost effective and can compete with more efficient fuels.
Subsidize with what? More money borrowed from Red China?
Renewable energy and greater energy independence is a great idea- when and where it makes economic sense. If someone can develop solutions that will cost less or work better then give me a call. Make a better mousetrap and all that jazz... But we cant afford to tax and borrow the $$ to fund inferior mousetraps so some greenies can feel good about themselves. We simply do not have the money anymore to fund this or any other Potemkin energy projects.
Results so far:
No 34% 235 votes Total: 696 votes
Yes 66% 461 votes
The free market should decide. Also - no FOOD for FUEL.
HELL NO!!
The alternative "green energy" scam can only exist through smoke, mirrors, hidden grants, subsidies, "free" gifts, laundered "stimulus" money, all ultimately taxpayer money!
Has anyone besides me noticed how many "alternative energy" projects are "gifts?" and that full costs of financing, construction and maintenance are never revealed? Hell, those costs are studiously NEVER RECORDED!
Yeah. From the money fairy.
When reality finally sinks in, it will be tar and feathers time.
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