Posted on 10/19/2010 6:19:35 PM PDT by TheConservativeCitizen
For any who have been following the Colorado gubernatorial race it as been an ugly, disastrous, GOP bungle in the middle of what should only be a Republican year. The hand-picked GOP establishment candidate was former congressman Scott McInnis. I actually like the guy, but he tended to be a flip-flopper and the TEA party types didnt trust him. He was opposed by no-name businessman Dan Maes who came out of nowhere riding the anti-establishment mood to emerge from the state convention with strong backing and a place on the primary ballot.
Within just a few days the press launched a well-placed and apparently true story about a plagiarism charge against Scott McInnis which had occurred for his work on water issues for an obscure foundation. What isnt really known is that the $300,000 fellowship was little more than pay-for-play influence money for wealthy Muslim Pakistani Seeme Hasan to get her son Ali into Colorado Republican politics with the help of a fairly popular former congressman.
The plagiarism scandal was just enough for the strongest of the two GOP gubernatorial candidates to be effectively knocked out of the race. At this point a number of backroom ideas and attempted deals started bubbling to the surface. Basically, the GOP establishment wanted Scott McInnis to win the primary. He would then be promised whatever and step down, and the party bosses would select a new candidate for governor to face Denver mayor John Loopy Hickenlooper in the fall.
But instead Dan Maes won the primary and immediately refused to play along and drop out for any new candidate. He figured hed won fair and square and was the legitimate and legal GOP candidate for governor. And technically he was.
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“This. We really, really need to make sure we vet candidates better.”
Case in point: PRESIDENT OBAMA.
Notice how the first comment lays into tancredo... I’m sorry folks but I’m not buying it. You have liberal Democrat groups who attacked McInnis for much ago about nothing, then attacked Maes for things that happened decades ago, and now attack Tancredo.
ALL 3 CANDIDATES are better than Hickenlooper. We just need one to stand up for ... I guess that one is ... Tancredo.
Just Medicare Part D alone is estimated to cost about a trillion bucks over ten years.
Chicken feed in your little GOP-addled world, right?
A trillion here, and a trillion there, pretty soon we're talking real money...
Post the budget on all that you say Republicans created in 12 years for 2006 the last year of Republican Congress. It isn't even 1%. That's not growing government.That's not big government.
In 12 years of the Republican Congress Part D is all you have.And you call that big government , 1 bill .LOL LOL.
That wasn't big government any way as Bush wanted to allow private companies to compete in medicare to destroy medicare and the liberal media pushed Bush to do that and they wanted to do that to avoid government heaalthcare.
LOL. Democrats will socialize all of healthcare so that lie you post is more of a lie.
Yes, you are a puppet.
Surely Tanc has warts - any politician does. But in the bigger scheme, you have an acceptable conservative against a dangerous liberal. Helping the greater evil win is evil...
As for your pet item: on the numbers, TARP itself has come in way under $700b net cost, about $50b actually, and a fraction of the $3 TRILLION Obama and the Dems have added to the debt in the past 2 years. TARP isnt the most important deficit vote - the Obama budget, the stimulus, Obamacare and cap-and-tax are. A republicans are better than the liberal Dems.
more importantly, if you cede this race to Hickenlooper, he will redistrict Colorado to give more power Pelosi, Barney Frank, and other liberal Democrats who voted for TARP, Obamacare, stimulus, and cap-and-tax...
WHY GIVE THE LIBERAL DEMS MORE POWER?
It's a two-legged, Republican/Democrat socialist beast, but it's all one beast.
Really, you are loopy.
Yes why part D is the problem with our Country, not the thousands of government agencies that democrats created , not the democrats’ social security and medicare which alone have 99 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities. Part D.Part D. why all we have to do is get rid of part D and then we’d have a tiny government (sarcasm) and all our problems would be solved.LOL.
Part D which you say is 1 trillion over 10 years which is 100 billion per year. so if our government had a budget of 100 billion that is a large government to you? what if we reduced the budget from 3.4 trillion to 100 billion I guess that wouldn’t be anything. LOL.
Excuses and obfuscation. I’m not impressed at all.
Discretionary government spending as a percentage of GDP decreased during Republican Congress.
Number of government workers per 1000 population didn't increase during Republican Congress.
I don't care what you say. What you say means nothing. I know democrats created almost all government agencies and social security and medicare which account for most spending increases and have 99 trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities.
Sounds like a Tokyo Rose type transmission. No offense though.
Republicans in 12 years didn’t create the thousands of laws and government agencies that are crippling our economy and have the USA almost being a socialist state. No that was democrats. But you say it is 1 bill Part D which was bipartisan that is the problem, that is what is creating a socialist state . and you say I’m loopy.
If you can’t see democrats are the problems then you haven’t the capacity for rational thought.
Sorry. “Our politicians suck less than their politicians” ain’t gonna cut it any more.
Gosh. What a typically arrogant thing to say. Lots of Republican "leaders" feel the same way toward conservatives, but few of them are as foolish as you and will say it openly.
Especially in one of America's premiere conservative forums.
Name me five Republican politicians that have not strenuously supported those programs over the last few decades.
Shoot, name me one.
Sigh...did you like the Kool-Aid?
Surely Tanc has warts - any politician does. But in the bigger scheme, you have an acceptable conservative against a dangerous liberal. Helping the greater evil win is evil...
Oh really? Can you quote me scripture and verse on that? Or is that something that 'intelligent' man thought up all by himself?
As for your pet item: on the numbers, TARP itself has come in way under $700b net cost, about $50b actually...
And you call ME a "puppet"?
Do you realize how TARP was paid for? It was primarily by selling US Treasury securities. Do you understand what happens when a buyer makes a claim on that debt? It becomes money - in addition to the money that was used to initially buy the debt!
So you're telling me that $650 billion of the NEW money (not currency - but money) went away? I'd say that you don't understand how a money supply works.
...and a fraction of the $3 TRILLION Obama and the Dems have added to the debt in the past 2 years.
I don't like the $3 trillion in new deficits anymore than you do - but do you understand WHY they are spending like drunken sailors?
It's because to do any less would expose the extreme deflationary spiral depression that we are currently mired in! Do you honestly think that the Republicans are going to quit creating new debt? If they do, then people will see the full depression in all its glory.
That's what happens when we use a debt-based currency.
TARP isnt the most important deficit vote - the Obama budget, the stimulus, Obamacare and cap-and-tax are.
They are all sinful - every last one of them.
A republicans are better than the liberal Dems.
Not from a fiscal perspective they're not! They continue to promulgate debt-based currency exactly the same as the Democrats. History shows that the Democrats steal through higher taxes, while the Republicans steal through the "trust" funds.
...more importantly, if you cede this race to Hickenlooper, he will redistrict Colorado to give more power Pelosi, Barney Frank, and other liberal Democrats who voted for TARP, Obamacare, stimulus, and cap-and-tax...
I give the race to the Creator of all things. Do you really think that He cares if we vote for the lesser of two evils? Don't you think that He would rather have us obey His Word?
WHY GIVE THE LIBERAL DEMS MORE POWER?
Why elect someone governor who has a proven track record of indebting my progeny by $700+ billion and voting for the Patriot Act?
Tom Tancredo needs to seek repentence for those actions. If he does, then my family will vote for him - not until.
Name one democrat politician that is for doing that ,abolishing a government agency, or isn’t for Amnesty?
Bush wanted to privatize social security.
Republican Hensarling Advocates Cutting Benefits And Privatizing Social Security
In the name of deficit reduction, House Republicans are going back to the Social Security well, offering budget proposals similar to those President George W. Bush proposed after his 2004 re-election that would privatize Social Security accounts and reduce cost of living adjustments.
You live in Texas.
I live in Tom Tancedo's old Congressional District.
I have also known Tom since long before he became a Congressman - back when he was in the statehouse. He helped to get our homeschooling statutes enacted.
Tom Tancredo is a good man - but one who let the power get to him.
I can no longer trust Tom to lead in the fear of God. Because of this, my family will not be voting for him.
I think I am much closer to the situation than your personal opinion cast from another state.
No, he didn't. He wanted to play around with a couple percent around the margins. It was a joke. Lip service, no more.
“I give the race to the Creator of all things.”
He is not a voter in Colorado. You are his hands and his feet, and failure to use YOUR talents is failure to live His Word. You ‘give’ the race by doing what YOU can.
” Do you really think that He cares if we vote for the lesser of two evils? “
God is pro-life.
You think he wants you NOT to care about that difference?
“Can you quote me scripture and verse on that?”
“Render unto Caesar...”
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2 Chronicles 7:14 ESV / 3 helpful votes
If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
Man is a mixture of good and evil, and he can never be perfected in this life. The notion of his natural goodness is a delusive theory which will blow up any social order that is predicated upon it. - Richard Weaver
“but do you understand WHY they are spending like drunken sailors? “
BECAUSE THEY ARE TAX-AND-SPEND DEMOCRATS!
Why do snakes bite? It’s what they do.
Dont bear false witness by smearing the Republicans as just as bad as Democrats. That is 100% false.
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