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To: traditional1

“Being born in a state and being of age don’t make one a “natural born citizen”, no matter what State-Run-Media you listen to.”

It isn’t the media that says so, but the Supreme Court.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html

“His parents were NOT U.S. Citizens at the time of his birth...”

His mother undoubtedly was, although it doesn’t matter (see link above).

And a Hawaii birth certificate for someone born in Kenya would show Kenya as the birth place.


97 posted on 10/13/2010 5:04:32 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Mr Rogers

“And a Hawaii birth certificate for someone born in Kenya would show Kenya as the birth place.”

I think Okubo was quoted as saying that it *should* list the accurate birthplace.

But you need to know that though there was an index of foreign births in 1981, the HDOH claims there isn’t one any more. Where did those names go? What index are they included in right now?


118 posted on 10/13/2010 5:31:19 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Okay.

The case you cited merely is for "naturalized citizen" determination, which is what most have mis-interpreted as "natural born", which is the case when two U.S. Citizens are the parents at the time of the birth.

Second, the "Certificate of Live Birth" is simply an affirmation record that a parent has petitioned for showing an addition to the family, and simply can be claimed by that parent to say the birth occurred in Hawaii, even though it did not. When you have a LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE, with the ATTENDING PHYSICIAN'S NAME, and the LEGAL NAMES OF EACH OF THE PARENTS, and the residence of each of the parents, AND THE HOSPITAL WHERE THE BIRTH OCCURRED for The Messiah, then let me know will you?

If you wanna cite more specific and relevant case law, try a more recent finding on the term "natural born" vs. "naturalized" or "native born". Maybe you'll see the argument on the Merits, then, as opposed to buying into a non-relevant case.

"Natural Born" has been found to be "born of two U.S. Citizen parents".

Perkins v. Elg Elg v. Perkins, 307 U.S. 325, 59 S.Ct. 884, 83 L.Ed. 1320 (1939)

307 U.S. 325

59 S.Ct. 884

83 L.Ed. 1320

PERKINS, Secretary of Labor, et al.

v.

ELG. ELG v. PERKINS, Secretary of Labor, et al.

Nos. 454, 455.

Argued Feb. 3, 1939.

Decided May 29, 1939.

Page 326

Why would one spend millions of dollars to defend against disclosure of an Original Birth Certificate, if one has nothing to be ashamed of or to hide from the public view?

138 posted on 10/13/2010 5:58:08 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama go:nna take care o' me!)
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