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You’re confused as to the purpose of nations and laws, Mr. Rogers. We were never bound by the laws of England, common or otherwise, once the new nation was established. Founder George Mason walked out on the Convention and refused to sign because, in his words, the common law was completely overturned, meaning English common law. And it was.

Mason’s insistence upon a Bill Of Rights, which was as you’ll recall the result of Constitutional Amendment immediately following ratification, is the sole extent of the old common law in United States Constitutional law.

The rest drew upon numerous sources, from the Roman Republic onward, much as the Law Of Nations did. You seem fixated upon Vattel as if this somehow diminishes or discredits the Law Of Nations. He merely published a treatise upon it, he didn’t create it. He was, however, tremendously influential during the timeframe in question for having done so, far more among our Founders than any expert upon the English feudal legal system would have been.

That system is what they were removing themselves from. Why is this so difficult for you?

We are not bound by the laws of England - yet YOU are the one saying Obama is a British subject because of English law.

The courts said the MEANING of legal terms in the Constitution are those found in English common law, since it was the legal language in effect when the Founders were writing. And they thus used the meaning of natural born subject to determine the meaning of natural born citizen.

And the courts specifically rejected Roman law about citizenship.

Again, you don’t get a vote. You don’t have to like it. It is the law. But if you want, feel free to put some skin into the game. Publicly refuse to obey laws signed by Obama because he isn’t REALLY the President. Then, when charges are brought against you, use discovery to get Obama’s birth certificate. Then you’ll be a hero like Lakin...or a prisoner like Lakin, if you lose.

And you will lose, because you ignore the law and substitute your fantasies.

Mr. Rogers. We were never bound by the laws of England, common or otherwise,

Troll Rogers can't get past that fact unless of course it is convenient to use subjects and common law....specifically citing native in his wet dream WKA

Of course, he will also tell you that modern day lawyers do not use dictionaries for legal terms, and will not recognize that that is what the problem is.

According to Rogers, semantics suck, unless it supports his main man, bammie.